[quote]therajraj wrote:
No I don’t think it should be banned. But good for society in the way it’s being consumed presently? No way.[/quote]
You think it is possible for the trend to swing back, and after years of so much abuse and over saturation of the market, people will generally give up the taboo curiosity and go back to “regular” life?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The same thing that makes anything bad? My morality?[/quote]
Ok…what is MORALLY WRONG about watching two people have sex? (let’s keep this simple, folks)
[quote]
What makes war bad?[/quote]
Uhm, you wrote:
The same can be said about sending your son an/or daughter to war.[/quote]
Not an answer to my question, nor does it address the point of the question.
In other words, nothing rational makes war bad, you just know it is.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
No I don’t think it should be banned. But good for society in the way it’s being consumed presently? No way.[/quote]
You think it is possible for the trend to swing back, and after years of so much abuse and over saturation of the market, people will generally give up the taboo curiosity and go back to “regular” life?[/quote]
Are you kidding?
Once you lose the black and white tv, there is no looking back.
Three decades from now, men will all be too weak kneed to walk down the street.
Enough estrogenic compounds in the environment and I am sure the entire race will be ready for cultivation as food before 2075.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The same thing that makes anything bad? My morality?[/quote]
Ok…what is MORALLY WRONG about watching two people have sex? (let’s keep this simple, folks)
[quote]
What makes war bad?[/quote]
Uhm, you wrote:
The same can be said about sending your son an/or daughter to war.[/quote]
Not an answer to my question, nor does it address the point of the question.
In other words, nothing rational makes war bad, you just know it is.[/quote]
Uhm, they could die at war.
The issue was about you not wanting you kids to do it…would you want your kids to die in war?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
No I don’t think it should be banned. But good for society in the way it’s being consumed presently? No way.[/quote]
You think it is possible for the trend to swing back, and after years of so much abuse and over saturation of the market, people will generally give up the taboo curiosity and go back to “regular” life?[/quote]
If the average girlfriend/wife returns to being thin and girly, possibly.
Ok, I’ll join
Watching porn and watching porn AND beating off to it, are two VERY different things. The former can easily just be viewed as a form of entertainment (though it still has its negatives) but the latter tends to turn into a huge mess as it progresses.
I really want to discuss the “bad acting weak plot” angle.
Some of this has me laughing too much to take it seriously.
Moderation, lots of things can be bad if your obsessed with it.
I bet if we compared porn revenue by country (adjusted for population size differences and purchasing power) against an obesity chart by country you’d find fatter countries consume more porn.
I don’t think porn in and of itself is bad. Just like I don’t think weed or alcohol is “bad”.
But it can be abused in many ways by both the people participating and the people viewing it.
I suppose it depends on how you define bad.
Bad has a lot of definitions.
bad 1 (bd)
adj.worse (wûrs), worst (wûrst)
Not achieving an adequate standard; poor: a bad concert.
Evil; sinful.
Vulgar or obscene: bad language.
Informal Disobedient or naughty: bad children.
Disagreeable, unpleasant, or disturbing: a bad piece of news.
Unfavorable: bad reviews for the play.
Not fresh; rotten or spoiled: bad meat.
Injurious in effect; detrimental: bad habits.
Not working properly; defective: a bad telephone connection.
Full of or exhibiting faults or errors: bad grammar.
Having no validity; void: passed bad checks.
Being so far behind in repayment as to be considered a loss: bad loans.
Severe; intense: a bad cold.
a. Being in poor health or in pain: I feel bad today.
b. Being in poor condition; diseased: bad lungs.
Sorry; regretful: She feels bad about how she treated you.
bad·der, bad·destSlang Very good; great.
n.
Something that is below standard or expectations, as of ethics or decency: weighing the good against the bad.
adv. Usage Problem
Badly.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I really want to discuss the “bad acting weak plot” angle.
Some of this has me laughing too much to take it seriously.[/quote]
Oh, in terms of the acting and plot?
Well, ya, it’s horrible. If they were good actors, they wouldn’t be doing porn. Isn’t like 90% of porn made in LA or the surrounding area?
Sometimes the plots aren’t too bad, if it’s a fantasy for you the plot can be great, actually. For example: if you have a hot doctor or nurse and you can relate to a doctor or nurse porn, then you’d probably think the plot was good (if you can get past the horrible, horrible acting). Then again, it could give you a false sense that it could actually happen in real life that easily (or at all) so maybe it is bad, regardless…
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The same thing that makes anything bad? My morality?[/quote]
Ok…what is MORALLY WRONG about watching two people have sex? (let’s keep this simple, folks)
[quote]
What makes war bad?[/quote]
Uhm, you wrote:
The same can be said about sending your son an/or daughter to war.[/quote]
Not an answer to my question, nor does it address the point of the question.
In other words, nothing rational makes war bad, you just know it is.[/quote]
To add to this, sometimes war is necessary. I don’t think the freedom of our nation will ever be preserved by porn and I can’t see any other justifiable NEED for it.
I would be disappointed if my child did porn. I would not be disappointed if they decided to join the military and died serving their country. I would be sad, but proud nonetheless.
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
Ok, I’ll join
Watching porn and watching porn AND beating off to it, are two VERY different things. The former can easily just be viewed as a form of entertainment (though it still has its negatives) but the latter tends to turn into a huge mess as it progresses.[/quote]
that is what kleenex is for
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…but it is BAD in the sense of good and evil?
[/quote]
Ah, I leave the value judgments up to the individual.
I leave the bottle alone because for me it is a destructive influence in my life. Others feel the same about porn.
Thing is, I don’t agree with demonizing behaviors, substances, or other objects. Good for a person to varying degrees, bad to varying degrees, or somewhere in between-sure.
I don’t think that it is inherently malignant or in any way good because simply put- it is the recording of a sex act, it doesn’t have conscience or intention.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I really want to discuss the “bad acting weak plot” angle.
Some of this has me laughing too much to take it seriously.[/quote]
Personally I like when they just get right down to it aswell but if you watch porn with a chick they like a bit of a story… Also storys lend to creative names like my new favorite Asian porn (Pacific Rim job)
On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The same thing that makes anything bad? My morality?[/quote]
Ok…what is MORALLY WRONG about watching two people have sex? (let’s keep this simple, folks)
[quote]
What makes war bad?[/quote]
Uhm, you wrote:
The same can be said about sending your son an/or daughter to war.[/quote]
Not an answer to my question, nor does it address the point of the question.
In other words, nothing rational makes war bad, you just know it is.[/quote]
Uhm, they could die at war.
The issue was about you not wanting you kids to do it…would you want your kids to die in war?[/quote]
And they could get an STD (and die) having sex.
Would you want your kids making porn?
They don’t want to get cold feet.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The same thing that makes anything bad? My morality?[/quote]
Ok…what is MORALLY WRONG about watching two people have sex? (let’s keep this simple, folks)
[quote]
What makes war bad?[/quote]
Uhm, you wrote:
The same can be said about sending your son an/or daughter to war.[/quote]
Not an answer to my question, nor does it address the point of the question.
In other words, nothing rational makes war bad, you just know it is.[/quote]
Uhm, they could die at war.
The issue was about you not wanting you kids to do it…would you want your kids to die in war?[/quote]
And they could get an STD (and die) having sex.
Would you want your kids making porn?[/quote]
What does this have to do with your comment that it was BAD?
I asked you what makes it bad.
You give me some statement about not wanting your kids to do it.
So, one can only assume you think ANYTHING you don’t want your kids to do equals bad.
Please do better at this discussion if you can.
What makes it bad besides your kids doing it?
The only thing I can think that it contributes to society in a negative way is that a female is a sex object. Not all women like to be treated as the girls in porn all of them do it for the money. So young guys and gal’s who can be influenced by it should know the context and it’s purpose. They should also know that getting a girl to s yo d or anything takes more respect then offered in porns. Just watched good one today. Served it’s purpose.
I saw a rap show and a dude said I’ll put more red dots on your ass then Montana Fishburne. I never laughed so hard in my life. Feel bad for Lawrence but that’s life. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. I would hate if people tried to outright ban it.