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Push Up Problem

Porn abuse= addiction to porn.

But to make it short, it was an addiction(I couldn’t stop), that in the end caused me brain fog, anxiety, depression, OCD like thought patterns, no libido, erectile dysfunction, social anxiety, made me introvert and anti social. I wasted hours on that crap.

I’m glad I got rid of it. I’m recovering and it feels great returning to a life with out the addiction and the negative side effects it had.

[quote]HenBurg53 wrote:
It was a dead giveaway when he said hes recovering from porn abuse. What the fuck is that?[/quote]

Calling something retarded because you don’t know what it is doesn’t make you look smart, you know. There is such a thing as porn addiction and excessive porn consumption affecting your ‘real’ life negatively.

[quote]nighthawkz wrote:

[quote]HenBurg53 wrote:
It was a dead giveaway when he said hes recovering from porn abuse. What the fuck is that?[/quote]

Calling something retarded because you don’t know what it is doesn’t make you look smart, you know. There is such a thing as porn addiction and excessive porn consumption affecting your ‘real’ life negatively.[/quote]
So youre telling me that you can read this thread and not think that this whole story is ridiculous

[quote]PushPush wrote:
Porn abuse= addiction to porn.

But to make it short, it was an addiction(I couldn’t stop), that in the end caused me brain fog, anxiety, depression, OCD like thought patterns, no libido, erectile dysfunction, social anxiety, made me introvert and anti social. I wasted hours on that crap.

I’m glad I got rid of it. I’m recovering and it feels great returning to a life with out the addiction and the negative side effects it had. [/quote]

Nothing to do with your push up problem , then.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]PushPush wrote:
Porn abuse= addiction to porn.

But to make it short, it was an addiction(I couldn’t stop), that in the end caused me brain fog, anxiety, depression, OCD like thought patterns, no libido, erectile dysfunction, social anxiety, made me introvert and anti social. I wasted hours on that crap.

I’m glad I got rid of it. I’m recovering and it feels great returning to a life with out the addiction and the negative side effects it had. [/quote]

Nothing to do with your push up problem , then. [/quote]

It was also an emotional problem, and I was asked if I had any.

Anyway, I’ll talk to my physio today, I’ll let you guys know he’s answer. Perhaps someone might have this problem in the future, that I’ve had, and they might find an answer in this thread.

[quote]PushPush wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]PushPush wrote:
Porn abuse= addiction to porn.

But to make it short, it was an addiction(I couldn’t stop), that in the end caused me brain fog, anxiety, depression, OCD like thought patterns, no libido, erectile dysfunction, social anxiety, made me introvert and anti social. I wasted hours on that crap.

I’m glad I got rid of it. I’m recovering and it feels great returning to a life with out the addiction and the negative side effects it had. [/quote]

Nothing to do with your push up problem , then. [/quote]

It was also an emotional problem, and I was asked if I had any.

Anyway, I’ll talk to my physio today, I’ll let you guys know he’s answer. Perhaps someone might have this problem in the future, that I’ve had, and they might find an answer in this thread. [/quote]

Unlikely.

Maybe you did something different with your hand placement. I personally find push-ups a lot easier if my hands are in a horizontal line with my head (like a T with my body) as opposed to coming directly down from my shoulders (ilke an arrow with my body).

[quote]marrot wrote:
Maybe you did something different with your hand placement.[/quote]

After reading several posts about a porn addiction, I read this very differently…

Seriously though, this porn addiction thing is bullshit. I’m not saying some people don’t have a bit of a problem with it, as people have obsessive behaviours towards the craziest shit. But it is not an addiction. We toss around the word “addiction” WAY too lightly nowadays. It pisses me off listening to people complain about being “addicted” to caffeine and other reasonably innocuous shit.

What happens when you cut off the porn? You probably feel a little irritable and depressed? I’m sure there’s nothing major in the way of physical symptoms.

What happens when you cut a person off of hard drugs? Vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, inability to eat/sleep, pain, hallucinations/delusions, painful muscle spasms, and so much more, depending on the drug and person. It’s usually a combination and some can even cause death.

These are clearly not on the same level.

[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
Seriously though, this porn addiction thing is bullshit. I’m not saying some people don’t have a bit of a problem with it, as people have obsessive behaviours towards the craziest shit. But it is not an addiction. We toss around the word “addiction” WAY too lightly nowadays. It pisses me off listening to people complain about being “addicted” to caffeine and other reasonably innocuous shit.

What happens when you cut off the porn? You probably feel a little irritable and depressed? I’m sure there’s nothing major in the way of physical symptoms.

What happens when you cut a person off of hard drugs? Vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, inability to eat/sleep, pain, hallucinations/delusions, painful muscle spasms, and so much more, depending on the drug and person. It’s usually a combination and some can even cause death.

These are clearly not on the same level.[/quote]

I agree with most of what you’re saying. Legitimate withdrawls are a horrible thing that you remember for the rest of your life.

However, you can’t say something isn’t addictive because the withdrawl symptoms are mild. By that standard, cigarettes aren’t addictive.

You might use the word challenge if you prefer. Humans are complex being. Between our physical, emotional, psychological aspects many are not perfectly balanced. Why do you think that practices like yoga have been popular on all continents for so many centuries?
People invest time in them because they feel benefits because it fullfill needs.

My physio didn’t really say anything else, than do lighter versions of push ups until we meet in two weeks and that I easily get overloaded.
If the doctor can tell me anything new or the physio can in two weeks, I’ll post it here.

In the meantime swimming, slow ample mouvement are your best bet. You might benefit from mouvements without load or very light ones focussing on deep breaths forcing each exhalation. Really filling and emptying your belly. You might just get on your back on a carpet or a folded blanket relax and put a heavy book on your belly push it up all the way at each inhale, let it go all the way down contracting your abdominals forcing as much air out as possible.

Eventually it will become very calming. About 4 minutes, repeat about 4 times daily. Your situation is not muscular. The symptoms disappear when the cause is not there anymore. Focussing on a symptom it is likely to either come back or move a little or stay.

Okay, show of hands - Who thinks that PushPush is BHappy?

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:

[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
Seriously though, this porn addiction thing is bullshit. I’m not saying some people don’t have a bit of a problem with it, as people have obsessive behaviours towards the craziest shit. But it is not an addiction. We toss around the word “addiction” WAY too lightly nowadays. It pisses me off listening to people complain about being “addicted” to caffeine and other reasonably innocuous shit.

What happens when you cut off the porn? You probably feel a little irritable and depressed? I’m sure there’s nothing major in the way of physical symptoms.

What happens when you cut a person off of hard drugs? Vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, inability to eat/sleep, pain, hallucinations/delusions, painful muscle spasms, and so much more, depending on the drug and person. It’s usually a combination and some can even cause death.

These are clearly not on the same level.[/quote]

I agree with most of what you’re saying. Legitimate withdrawls are a horrible thing that you remember for the rest of your life.

However, you can’t say something isn’t addictive because the withdrawl symptoms are mild. By that standard, cigarettes aren’t addictive. [/quote]

Fair assertion, but perhaps I didn’t express myself quite right there. I would consider addiction (i.e. substance dependence) to be a biochemical dependency on an exogenous substance, manifested by physical symptoms upon cessation of the drug. To be an “addict”, this dependency should have a largely significant impact on an individual’s ability to live one’s day to day life. This is why smoking is addictive, but the vast majority of smokers aren’t really addicts.

Just because a substance or substance problem doesn’t fit this criteria doesn’t mean it doesn’t cause problems, that is substance abuse.

Behaviours can have severely deleterious effects on one’s quality of life, but to call it an addiction? I would say it’s more like an obsessive behaviour.

@Apoklyps: This has partly been compulsive behavior, I have OCD(and I was a severe case), but it has also been a way for me to get a huge dopamine fix.
Abstaining from it(rebooting), is a bout rebalancing my brain and rewiring it to natural and healthy sex, and getting my dopamine from non artificial stimulation.

Both doctor and physio said it might be overload. I’ll wait and see if it get’s better. I’ll see the physio soon though, perhaps something else might show.