Psychology of Speech

Why don’t people type/write like thay talk.

Most people say “like” alot when they talk for example. Or repeat what they just said…again. I’m guilty of doing this myself of course.

I can be more articulate on the page as it were but just shooting the shit I probably won’t use the same words. It gets dumbed down it seems. Is it because I have more time to formulate my answer?

Why the disconnect?

Without naming names there is a few respected posters here that refrain from profanity, use very fancy woids and are great at getting their point across(i’m jealous,it’s a struggle for me) which is cool…however, if we were both tailgating at a football game or something and the same basic subject matter came up would they use the same words?

I apologize if i’m not making any fuckin’ sense lol.

By my count I used three words in this post that I wouldn’t use if I was standing infront of you lol.

lol

the guys that don’t use the vernacular are most likely at work and cant switch back and forth between street lingo and prospeech.

I remember hearing my dean (who talks like bill roberts types) at a friday night football game

shouting “fuck that faggot up!!”

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
lol
the guys that don’t use the vernacular are most likely at work and cant switch back and forth between street lingo and prospeech.
I remember hearing my dean (who talks like bill roberts types) at a friday night football game
shouting “fuck that faggot up!!” [/quote]

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
lol
the guys that don’t use the vernacular are most likely at work and cant switch back and forth between street lingo and prospeech.
I remember hearing my dean (who talks like bill roberts types) at a friday night football game
shouting “fuck that faggot up!!” [/quote]

Pretty much

girl in your avatar isnt hot

i dont say like or ummm ever, made a strong effort to stop in highschool and have overcome it, its nothing more than a bad habit, but makes you sound like a valley girl. i talk like a type, and sometimes use words that are over peoples heads. old female co worker admitted to me that she didnt have any idea what i was talking about 50% of the time because my words went over her head. i dont try to sound like a genious, but i dont use all third grade words either. i also rarely swear, ive had people apologize for swearing in front of me which i always find odd.

[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
i dont say like or ummm ever, made a strong effort to stop in highschool and have overcome it, its nothing more than a bad habit, but makes you sound like a valley girl. i talk like a type, and sometimes use words that are over peoples heads. old female co worker admitted to me that she didnt have any idea what i was talking about 50% of the time because my words went over her head. i dont try to sound like a genious, but i dont use all third grade words either. i also rarely swear, ive had people apologize for swearing in front of me which i always find odd. [/quote]

but have you conversated with people who use “like” or “uhm” often in the speech and then conversate with them through an electronic medium and their communicative ability seems to increase?

I actually write/type probably a peg or two above how I speak. A lot of it has to do with actually seeing the words before they are communicated…

I’m about to add “conversate” to the your/you’re thread.

yea, most people dont type like or umm, they can pause and collect their thoughts, and also proofread.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Without naming names there is a few respected posters here that refrain from profanity, use very fancy woids and are great at getting their point across(i’m jealous,it’s a struggle for me) which is cool…

By my count I used three words in this post that I wouldn’t use if I was standing infront of you lol.

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Would they be…articulate, formulate, and disconnect?

I don’t know why the difference, but i do it also.

Side note, I found you saying “…use very fancy woids…” made me lol a bit.

[quote]polo77j wrote:

A lot of it has to do with actually seeing the words before they are communicated…[/quote]

This.

It has to be. Wehn we speak and can’t come up with a word immediately, sometimes “like” or “um” comes out in it’s place. When we type though, I think it’s that we have time to think about what we want to “say” before it just comes out of our mouths, which would be why there’s no "like"s or "uh"s in text.

Like really, like, uh, wouldn’t it be , uh, annoying, if like, we wrote how we uh, spoke all the time, like?

like

[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
yea, most people dont type like or umm, they can pause and collect their thoughts, and also proofread. [/quote]

but what about their eloquence? Have you ever conversed (thanks Lanky) with someone in person and then through some other written means and their eloquence seems a tad more refined?

[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

A lot of it has to do with actually seeing the words before they are communicated…[/quote]

This.

It has to be. Wehn we speak and can’t come up with a word immediately, sometimes “like” or “um” comes out in it’s place. When we type though, I think it’s that we have time to think about what we want to “say” before it just comes out of our mouths, which would be why there’s no "like"s or "uh"s in text.

Like really, like, uh, wouldn’t it be , uh, annoying, if like, we wrote how we uh, spoke all the time, like?

like[/quote]

I’ve actually seen people type out “like” as if they were writing they way the spoke (college level discussion boards too). And not just isolated instances but actually they perpetually write like they speak.

[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
i dont say like or ummm ever, made a strong effort to stop in highschool and have overcome it, its nothing more than a bad habit, but makes you sound like a valley girl. i talk like a type, and sometimes use words that are over peoples heads. old female co worker admitted to me that she didnt have any idea what i was talking about 50% of the time because my words went over her head. i dont try to sound like a genious, but i dont use all third grade words either. i also rarely swear, ive had people apologize for swearing in front of me which i always find odd. [/quote]

You want to hear alot of hummms and haaas or my pet peeve, and ahh. Watch a hockey player get interveiwed lol.

“yeah we had alot of speed tonight, and ahh, you know shot the puck well, and ahh, controlled the puck in our end, and ahh really had the power play working, and ahh, came out with win, and ahh can build on it and ahh make some noise in the first round”.

This is how a friend of mine sounded when he was a rookie untill he got used to the idiotic questions over and over. He doesen’t sound like that at home. The players with good agents send them to a consultent to help them become better speakers so they don’t all sound like bubble boy Sidney Crosby.

[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Without naming names there is a few respected posters here that refrain from profanity, use very fancy woids and are great at getting their point across(i’m jealous,it’s a struggle for me) which is cool…

By my count I used three words in this post that I wouldn’t use if I was standing infront of you lol.

[/quote]

Would they be…articulate, formulate, and disconnect?

I don’t know why the difference, but i do it also.

Side note, I found you saying “…use very fancy woids…” made me lol a bit. [/quote]

I was going with refrain not disconnect. And did you hear bugs bunny in your head when you read woids? lol.

I think much of what is said in speech is done through nonverbal communication (body language, etc.). It takes different language to communicate the same thoughts through the written word.

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
yea, most people dont type like or umm, they can pause and collect their thoughts, and also proofread. [/quote]

but what about their eloquence? Have you ever conversed (thanks Lanky) with someone in person and then through some other written means and their eloquence seems a tad more refined?[/quote]

honestly, no. all work email is internal only and rarely more than a few words here and there.

but my current girlfreind hated me when she met me in person and only took a liking to me after some texting/facebook convos so maybe non-verbal communication is my strong suit.

Ummm what are you talking about? uh I always type the way I talk motherfucker.

[quote]clockworkchad wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
yea, most people dont type like or umm, they can pause and collect their thoughts, and also proofread. [/quote]

but what about their eloquence? Have you ever conversed (thanks Lanky) with someone in person and then through some other written means and their eloquence seems a tad more refined?[/quote]

honestly, no. all work email is internal only and rarely more than a few words here and there.

but my current girlfreind hated me when she met me in person and only took a liking to me after some texting/facebook convos so maybe non-verbal communication is my strong suit.
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what about your friends? I can see how applying this conversation to a professional setting wouldn’t yield much in terms of disparity

I pretty much talk the way i write… however i have speech adaptations based on my environment. If i’m in a scholastic setting then i make sure to speak proper. If i’m chilling with my boys then i use slang.

I also notice that i speak really articulately when conversing with women of higher education as opposed to those i believe are less educated. I remember several times typing a txt message with the intent to send it, then i had to alter it when i realized who i was sending it to.

I think some people are just able to process their thoughts quicker than others… Words such as “like” and “uumm” are just used to feel in awkward moments of silence until that person is able to express their thoughts. When writing there is no pressure to get it done in a timely fashion because no one is standing infront of you waiting on your response. Also you are able to read and reread what you type and correct any mistakes… Reading “uumm” in a typed statement is so much more ridiculous that saying it spur of the moment.

[quote]angus_beef wrote:
I pretty much talk the way i write… however i have speech adaptations based on my environment. If i’m in a scholastic setting then i make sure to speak proper. If i’m chilling with my boys then i use slang.

I also notice that i speak really articulately when conversing with women of higher education as opposed to those i believe are less educated. I remember several times typing a txt message with the intent to send it, then i had to alter it when i realized who i was sending it to.

I think some people are just able to process their thoughts quicker than others… Words such as “like” and “uumm” are just used to feel in awkward moments of silence until that person is able to express their thoughts. When writing there is no pressure to get it done in a timely fashion because no one is standing infront of you waiting on your response. Also you are able to read and reread what you type and correct any mistakes… Reading “uumm” in a typed statement is so much more ridiculous that saying it spur of the moment.[/quote]

This is me lol.

I generally adapt my speech and even stance and attitude based on my company, obviously within some limits. I like to think of myself as a bit of a social chameleon. But then again, we’re all like that to a point. Just a matter of degrees.