As far as Surge goes, I only mix that with water, but for other proteins i normally choose the chocolate flavor and mix it with milk even though it says mix with water.
I find this to make the shake much more pleasing to my palate.
I also use a general rule of two cups of milk or water per one serving of protein, any less and my Surge tastes almost like flavored syrup or something hhaha.
anyways, maybe you can give milk and chocolate flavored protein a shot and see how it works out for you
[quote]abcstorz wrote:
As far as Surge goes, I only mix that with water, but for other proteins i normally choose the chocolate flavor and mix it with milk even though it says mix with water.
I find this to make the shake much more pleasing to my palate.
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Grow! Whey to me tastes horrible in water, but it’s alright in milk. Plus, more calories/fat/protein!
Also, I fail to see how “real food is better.” Protein powder is real food. Yeah, it processed a little, but that makes it more concentrated and eliminates lactose and other things that many of us don’t want.
Then you fail to understand the thermic effect of feeding, which is very real. Or satiety.
It is a supplement, whether it is a whey/casein blend or anything else.[/quote]
Actually, I seem to have a greater understanding of the thermic effect of food than you.
After all, many protein powders have a greater thermic effect than most types of milk due to their significantly higher protein content.
So, claiming that protein powder isn’t food because it doesn’t have the same thermic effect as solid protein sources is silly.
Protein powders and other food supplements, such as powdered milk, are still considered to be food.
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
Actually, I seem to have a greater understanding of the thermic effect of food than you.
After all, many protein powders have a greater thermic effect than most types of milk due to their significantly higher protein content.
So, claiming that protein powder isn’t food because it doesn’t have the same thermic effect as solid protein sources is silly.
Protein powders and other food supplements, such as powdered milk, are still considered to be food.[/quote]
See, you just compared a protein shake to a glass of milk (another liquid).
The fact is that digesting SOLID food has a thermic effect as well. A large solid meal, even if the overall protein content is lower than a protein shake’s, will still require more energy overall to digest.
Just because protein has a higher thermic effect than the other macros does not mean macros alone determine the thermic effect of a meal, whether it is solid or liquid.
Solid food still needs to be broken down a lot more than a liquid shake, even if grams of protein between the two are equivalent.
Fun fact: The first competitive powerlifter I’d ever met (squatting 585 at under 175 pounds) was a freshmen in high school when he was tired of being skinny and gained 50 pounds throughout the school year. He was so convinced that downing protein shakes (as well as eating a very good bulking diet) would help him gain this 50 pounds… but he couldn’t keep the shakes down.
His solution? He’d chug them down, throw up back into the protein shaker/blender and keep on chuggin’, sometimes doing this multiple times at one shake.
Not too sure if that really helps anyone here on this topic, I just found it inspiring.
Anyways, I’m gonna have to ditto the others here and tell you to just soldier on through it until you get used to it, and can get 'em down no problem. When you feel like you’re gonna throw up, do anything you can to keep it down, whether that’s blasting music or whatever, just don’t throw up at all costs! That ought to help.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
ChrisKing wrote:
Actually, I seem to have a greater understanding of the thermic effect of food than you.
After all, many protein powders have a greater thermic effect than most types of milk due to their significantly higher protein content.
So, claiming that protein powder isn’t food because it doesn’t have the same thermic effect as solid protein sources is silly.
Protein powders and other food supplements, such as powdered milk, are still considered to be food.
See, you just compared a protein shake to a glass of milk (another liquid).
The fact is that digesting SOLID food has a thermic effect as well. A large solid meal, even if the overall protein content is lower than a protein shake’s, will still require more energy overall to digest.
Just because protein has a higher thermic effect than the other macros does not mean macros alone determine the thermic effect of a meal, whether it is solid or liquid.
Solid food still needs to be broken down a lot more than a liquid shake, even if grams of protein between the two are equivalent.[/quote]
Where have I said anything that implied otherwise? I simply said that protein powders are food and compared them to milk since I think everyone would agree that milk is food.
It looks like you’re trying to create an argument when I’m in agreement with everything in this post.