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Protein Rotation & Allergies?


#1

I have read that you should rotate your protein powder because of a. effectiveness and b. additives in each indidividual protein powder can cause allergies over time.

Do you rotate and should you rotate your protein powder?


#2

I have never done this and don't see the need.

After all, don't many high-quality protein powders utilize the same raw materials?

Unless you're going from dairy-based proteins to egg protein to rice protein and so forth it doesn't seem worthwhile.


#3

Good post. It doesn't make much sense at all. The basic components are the same in most protein powders. If you were allergic to a particular substance, you would experience symptoms from it. People don't just become allergic to things that easily out of the blue, especially when they are constantly exposed to it. Allergies are the result of a hypersensitive immune system. The allergic immune system misidentifies an otherwise innocuous substance as harmful, and then attacks the substance.

This means that the chances of an ADULT suddenly developing an allergy to something that they didn't have a reaction to before is low. In children, there may be the risk of developing an allergy, however, the specific mechanism is largely unknown.


#4

Gnc carries an all natural whey protein powder that has no additives or colors in it.


#5

Some foods, when eaten daily, do tend to cause sensitivities or allergies. It's wise to rotate these foods to prevent this from happening. These foods include things like eggs, soy, tomatoes, chocolate/cocoa, peanuts/peanut butter... probably milk to some extent (and probably others I'm forgetting right now).

But whey is so easily digested, and so low in lactose, I would think it would be pretty unlikely to trigger an allergy. And foods like yogurt are high in live bacterial cultures that aid digestion and help the body tolerate and assimilate them better. I'd say that rotating certain foods is a great idea, but whey isn't one you need to worry about.


#6

Not in people who are not sensitive or allergic to them.


#7

I had thought it was very possible to develop 'random' allergies to foods eaten on a daily basis. I'm no doc tho. Not yet.


#8

It isn't common. If that were the case, allergy skin tests in order to determine what a patient is allergic to would be useless if it were that variable and inconsistant. Like was said, this would be more common in CHILDREN, not grown adults.


#9

In D-Tap Berardi talks about it a little bit when he mentions that hydrolysate is very non-allergenic.

I, personally, have never noticed this and to be honest it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

Check out the Berardi D-Tap if you're interested.


#10

Rotational diets make complete sense! Our ancestors including early man didn't eat whey everyday or corn or corn products, soy, wheat, dairy. People lived on what was there... What was in season. Whey is great and so is rice protein and there's definetly different concepts to both. This is about all protein sources because the bombardment of the same food day after day will cause leaky gut.

The food sensitivities(including but not limited to food allergies) will be the foods most commonly eaten.

Research it a little bit talk to a doctor who likes to stay on top of this talk to paul chek. I know our longevity practice does some work with this company http://www.gdx.net/home/

While it won't affect the muscles as much as level of fatigue and irritibility as well as neural function.
Rant over,
Jordy


#11

I dont know if it'd be cause of allergies, but to me it SEEMS like common sense to rotate food but who really does it?

Most people eat 90% of the same foods week in week out. Myself included. We like some variety daily, but we rotate the same foods in a week for years on end.

As for protein powders, alomst all of them today are from cows' milk. If you exclude soy, there's rice, egg and pea proteins left, and most of the are expensive and not very pleasing to the taste buds.

Both my sister and one my friends developped allergies in their 30s but who knows what's the cause.


#12

You could listen to Prof X who as usual has all the answers or you could listen to Charles Poliquin. Constantly using the same foods/supplements can (i) cause intolerances to those foods/supplements or additives in them (Charles has done the tests proving this - I'll bet Prof X hasn't) and (ii) diminish their effectiveness for you over time. Rotating can help to minimise these issues.


#13

I like Charles and much of his training advise, but the fact that he may have done "tests" is meaningless. Who's to say that Prof X or anyone else hasn't also run "tests." Do you think Charles has some magical 8 ball that gives him all of the answers.


#14

What a strange response... Tests meaningless? I was under the impression that scientific testing (along with empirical evidence) was all we have...

Who's to say Prof X hasn't done tests? Me. .. and even if he has I'm guessing Charles did them better as he gets paid a lot of money to get these things right.

Maybe Charles does have a magic 8 ball but I didn't mention it did I? I think I said he used TESTS.


#15

Charles Poliquin has my complete respect because world-class athletes are willing to pay him $500 an hour to train with him. That makes me think he has a lot of answers, coupled with the fact he has trained numerous Olympic medalists.


#16

Our ancestors also didn't live much past age 30. I don't understand this infatuation with this mythical collective group of ancestral man from whom every human being is descended that is so frequently idolized, unless you are an anarcho-primtivist.

Humans tend to progress as time goes on. Why idolize how primtive man used to be? Did primitive man have some desirable attribute that modern man no longer has?