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Protein Intake On Very Low-Carbs

Ladies and Gents, can any of you guys give me some input on protein intake when on a very-low (15-20 g/day at ABSOLUTE most)carb diet. I currently take about .75 g/lbs. body weight (~175 g) and am thinking about increasing it slightly but I’m worried about taking too much and inducing glucogenesis.

thoughts or suggestions???

[quote]mightiesthunter wrote:
Ladies and Gents, can any of you guys give me some input on protein intake when on a very-low (15-20 g/day at ABSOLUTE most)carb diet. I currently take about .75 g/lbs. body weight (~175 g) and am thinking about increasing it slightly but I’m worried about taking too much and inducing glucogenesis.

thoughts or suggestions???
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Is your goal retaining muscle while dropping fat? Another words is muscle retention a big priority? If so, I would up it to at least a gram and a half to two grams per pound of bodyweight and consider BCAA’s.

D

[quote]Dedicated wrote:
mightiesthunter wrote:
Ladies and Gents, can any of you guys give me some input on protein intake when on a very-low (15-20 g/day at ABSOLUTE most)carb diet. I currently take about .75 g/lbs. body weight (~175 g) and am thinking about increasing it slightly but I’m worried about taking too much and inducing glucogenesis.

thoughts or suggestions???

Is your goal retaining muscle while dropping fat? Another words is muscle retention a big priority? If so, I would up it to at least a gram and a half to two grams per pound of bodyweight and consider BCAA’s.

D[/quote]

yes i agree, if you are cutting , i would suggest increasing protein requirements a little more, gluconeogenesis breaking you out of ketosis is somewhat of an “excessive” intake of protein.

[quote]mightiesthunter wrote:
Ladies and Gents, can any of you guys give me some input on protein intake when on a very-low (15-20 g/day at ABSOLUTE most)carb diet. I currently take about .75 g/lbs. body weight (~175 g) and am thinking about increasing it slightly but I’m worried about taking too much and inducing glucogenesis.

thoughts or suggestions???
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Frozen chicken breast, I believe that is zero carbs. Something like the low carb shake from the Biotest store as a quick fix would be a good idea too.

you mean gluco"neo"genesis?

If so, what is the goal of your diet? fat loss I presume.

What are your fat levels at? If you are high fatting at 60% fat cals or more then you won’t need as much protein. High fat diets are very protein sparing. but on a low carb diet protein sources are your primary source of food so I wouldn’t worry about gluconeogenesis. It happens. Are you carb-cycling/carbing-up at all? If so keep protein moderate on those days.

-chris

yeah, muscle retention while i’m cutting is the goal. I’m pretty hefty right now (hefty = i’m well overweight/fat) so my goal for the VLCD i’m about to start is to cut fat and retain muscle mass. I easily hit 175-200g quality protein/day and get the rest of my macronutrients from quality fats. I was just curious if this quantity of protein should be a concern for gluconeogenesis…

you should be fine. Are you doing the anabolic diet? I suggest it. very effective for fat loss and muscle retention/gain. Remember there aren’t too many reasons you can’t gain muscle and lose fat at the same time unless you are very lean. lift heavy.

-chris

[quote]mightiesthunter wrote:
yeah, muscle retention while i’m cutting is the goal. I’m pretty hefty right now (hefty = i’m well overweight/fat) so my goal for the VLCD i’m about to start is to cut fat and retain muscle mass. I easily hit 175-200g quality protein/day and get the rest of my macronutrients from quality fats. I was just curious if this quantity of protein should be a concern for gluconeogenesis…[/quote]