[quote]Professor X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The top reason for why the question is flawed:
Athletes, while quite active, usually do not have the primary goal of building as much muscle as humanly possible.
That is what makes bodybuilding a little different and why you won’t find studies done specifically for that reason (at least I have never seen one and I look). I don’t just lift weights, I lift weights with the main goal of building more muscle mass.
2gr per kg of body weight may be just fine for most athletes. All we have to go on for bodybuilding is what works for many trainers when it comes to maintaining the maximum amount of muscle mass when dieting or when working on building as much as possible.
I’d be quite interested in what you feel the body needs to have to attain the most muscle mass. Can it be done on 1g/lb? 1.5? 2? I’ve yet to see any evidence that would show what protein intake is maximal for this and at whgat point it is merely a calorie.
In other words when maximally it is not performing synthesis or needed for this and simply is a better way to fulfill your caloric needs.
My guess is a lot closer to 1 than 2.
I’ve gained muscle just fine on no more than about 1gr per pound of body weight. Once you start taking in over 5,000cals a day, that isn’t hard to do at all with no supplementation. The ONLY time I personally feel more protein than that may be necessary is when dieting and that is to preserve muscle tissue from being used as energy.
I think way too many newbies are running after supplements when they would make better progress just NOT being afraid of food for fear of gaining any body fat at all.[/quote]
I agree completely with the dieting example. But for clarification-at 5,000 cals I would assume your protein grams are very high, but again moreso for caloric needs than synthesis purposes.
Thanks. And oh yah, agree completely with the less experienced lifter going for supps before food. If they would just look at the physiques built in earlier days, I think that would help them see what food and consistancy can do even without the ‘super supps’ now available.