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Protein Before & After Workout?


#1

I recently came across the T-Nation site and it's been very useful!

I have a question -- Charles Staley also writes an section in Best Life magazine & in the April 2006 edition, he talked about adding protein before and after a workout. His recommendation was Metabolic Drive MRP before the workout and Surge by Biotest after the workout. I was considering using this on my workout days. Has anyone used this type of setup on workout days and found it to help?

I was also intrigued by Spike as a daily supplement. The description says without the jitters of ephedrine, which is what I used to get BIG time on products that had ephedrine. Can anyone recommend this as a daily 'pick me up'? After reading the description, it sounds perfect, but so have other products I've used (not from T-Nation).

Since I am new to T-Nation, would you recommend other supplements here to check out? I am NOT looking to add 5-10 pills, drinks, etc. to my daily routine, but since I don't drink pop, coffee, etc. I don't get much caffeine stimulation that could help throughout the day.

Brief background on my workouts - I follow the Mike Mentzer methods fairly close. Currently I'm on a 1 day per week strenuous workout and 1-2 days of light cardio. Now that the weather is breaking here, golf will be added to the mix.

Thanks!!
Chris


#2

Well I'll only be able to comment on the Spike since that is the only Biotest supplement I've actually used; and I gotta say that Spike has pretty damn good for what I was looking for. Essentially it was a preworkout stimulant since I usually workout before class, but the effects carried over into the classroom as well. I was more alert, and just felt more "into" it. . . if that makes sense.

Now that school is out I'll continue to use it preworkout and days that I work early (7am), or if I just need to stay alert for an extended period of time. I suggest that you read the Spike thread after the product article if you haven't , it'll just give you some more good info before using/buying Spike.

Good Luck and Welcome,
Matt


#3

Personally I drink Metabolic Drive right before I go to bed. The slow-digesting protein keeps your body from breaking down muscle while you sleep.

For post-workout recovery, you definitely can't beat Surge.

Spike is an amazing product! I've experienced no adverse side effects. When I need to wake up on little sleep, Spike really gets me feeling like a normal human being. And otherwise, Spike makes me feel unstoppable.


#4

i have used both Spike and HOT-ROX (not at the same time) and i feel like HOT-ROX gets me more pumped than Spike. im assuming HOT-ROX has caffiene since it is a fat loss supplement.


#5

Depends on your goals, are you looking to add muscle-mass and definition? Strength and Power?? Losing fat?

I can say that Surge Post-workout is a good way to go, no matter what your lifting goals. Personally, I can't stomach any pre-workout drinks (I feel bloated and heavy). But I do try and get some good protein around an hour or so before a workout. (I.e. a Metabolic Drive bar or similar) It helps you recover faster than running though your workout on an empty stomach


#6

You only lift one day per week? I'm not sure what your goals are, but you might try Dr. Berardi's suggestion of using one-half serving of Surge during workout and another half-serving post workout. I use a half-serving during workout and a full serving post workout. Only on lifing days. Not on cardio days.

Good luck.


#7

bikemike - I know, just 1 day per week, how could you actually build muscle? It's a contrarian view and I understand that, but following Mike Mentzer's high intensity training has added muscle mass that I was not seeing working out 3-4 times per week. More is not always good for your body.

I do appreciate these comments, it appears Surge is pretty good. As for the proteins, I am going to have to read up on it more as it appears there's a variety of suggestions!


#8

I would say the overall goal is to build muscle mass since that should help with definition, strength, power, and losing fat. I know, it's not a perfect science, but the domino effect of building muscle mass would help in these regards.