Ksman - I am sorry I did not get any notification from here. This is why i was so slow to reply.
http://208.109.208.90/other/Allhormones.xls
This is an excel spreadsheet of all results
There was a space in the link and that seemed to screw it up. I removed that. You can see I have tried a LOT. This does not cover all I have tried.
I have tried TRT
Transdermal
Test E
Test C
Test P
Tried high dose, low dose, mid dose etc.
This is what it seems to have came down too.
Last time I was taking test E I took a very low dose 28.5 mg every 3 days. At first energy, well being, vigor, positive mood all come back. This lasted for about 8 days. Then I started feeling worse than ever. Anxiety, total loss of appetite, fell like brick in my stomach, no energy, could not exercise. On this small dose I did a siliva e2 and e2 test to find they were both over range despite free T measured by blood being mid / low range.
So a low dose of test e that does not even get my free test above mid range increases free e2 and e3 over range.
It seems right now my body is keeping free T very low just over bottom of the range when on nothing for a reason as when I try to push it over that e2 goes to high and end up feeling worse after a week.
The test e alone even in the first week did not improve my libido. The only time I got my libido back was on arimidex. I was taking 0.1mg every second day and the libido came back for a few days and then felt worse than ever. I tried to repeat and it is a rollercoaster no matter what I do. Often end up bedridden and feeling like crap.
As far as muscles go, when using test P and arimidex I was able to keep things a little balanced for a week and all my leg lifts skyrocked by about 30 percent. Now it is so hard to gain muscle. Takes about 1 year to gain 5 percent stength. Before I was 96 kilos and could deadlift 200 + kilos now I am 78 and can not gain muscle. If I eat a lot I just gain love handles. I never had love handles before finasteride even at 96 kilos.
I have tried various AIs
Formestane
Aromasin
Arimidex
ATD
PES Erase
That reminds me at first on pes erase alone I was able to get libido back to a degree for about a week and felt pretty good all round. But as usual things start falling apart and I end up worse than I started.
Right now I am testing ATD again and hope to do some blood tests.
My blood tests from a week ago show.
Total T - 5 (2.5 - 8)
SHBG 55 - No range given but this is the top of the range of other labs
E2 36.04 pg/ml - No range given by lab but usual range is 15-40 I guess.
These tests were done on nothing.
So you can see my free test is probably very low as usual but e2 is high in the range? Low free t and high E seems to suggest too much aromotaze activity?
As I am saying. I was totally fine before I took finasteride and then BANG. Turned to an 80 year old in a matter of days.
I am theorizing that fin damaged my testicles or some organ and now I am stuck in a state of over aromitization. When I increase free T i just end up with a wave of more e. I take extra arimidex and that messes up the functioning of the brain and other areas as from what I read locally produced estrogens are important and arimidex could mess up this system.
I tried HCG on a number of occasions. When taking HCG 250 iu per week with 100mg of test E I do not even feel the beneficial effects of test in the first week. - I started HCG before the T. I am guess things could be that hcg bumped my e even higher so that negated the benefits of the T.
The question that really needs to be asked is what are we dealing with here. I was totally fine with great libido before finasteride and now 0 libido and all the low t symptoms. Regular guys may have damaged testicles so T works fine, others may have slightly increase perihperal aromitization so arimidex results in fairly stable reductions in E2. But what happend if somehow the testicles were damaged and that they were creating too much e2? You might take more T but then just end up with more e2? In order to disable all the aromotaze in the testicles perhaps you would need to take such a high dose of arimidex that the local production of arimotaze in critical organs was over inhibited. Such as the brain. This could make you feel like total crap?
The other interesting note is that my estrone level was low in range while e2 and e3 was too high. As you can see from my video I do not have excess fat. Could this be an indicator that peripheral aromatization is not a problem as e1 is produced in fat cells?
If peripheral aromitization is not my problem then as I said that could explain why arimidex is not yielding stable results.
I still have some hope as I have recovered all problems by boosting T and reducing E. If I could combine them in a stable way I would be totally recovered.
I have tried all kinds of dosing with arimidex. .1mg a day. .2mg a day. .5mg a week and more and more. I know one other guy who took finasteride and has the same problem tried messing with arimidex for 2 years and was unable to get stable. Often feeling worse than ever.
As you can see from blood tests. Liver looks fine. I do not drink and eat only organic meat, fruit, vegetables and non organic nuts. I do not eat any processed foods. I drink a max of 3 beers a week and have never been an alchoholic. As I said. All these problems happened over about 2 days when I was on finasteride and had a “crash”.
LH is almost always low despite low free T. This tells me something like e2 is feeding back and saying DO not produce any more T. And this probably explains why I feel benefits on T only for a week as it seems to end up a e2. And that is why my body has lowerd free t to that of a dying 90 year old.
Sorry I ranted a little.
I thank you for your time. And interested on your input on this one.
I will keep checking this tread as I do not seem to get any emails.
Thanks again