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Prohormone Cycle


#1

just recently got this pro hormone named "quad" , Ive translated the chemicals and I'll list it down low. I've been cycling in the past, never done orals or liked orals from the fact that most are liver toxic. but as I stated I got this prohormone with 4 substances in which 3 are methylated, which worries me about the liver toxicity.

I have anastrozole, tamoxifen, clomid, liver support, 5000mg of HCG and other substances that I've had for other cycle. I have to buy some other substances in case I run it. I have good experiences with AAS but is this worth a shot? I planned on running test, deca and dbol before I got this, but I see people making very good gains on this. What are thoughts on this? Open minded to opinions

17b-hydroxy-2a,17b-dimethyl-5a-androstan-3-one-azine (Dymethazine) 10mg

4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol. (Halovar) 25mg

Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione (Trenavar) 15mg

2,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol (Epistane). 20mg.


#2

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#3

Dose it at 2 caps/day, spread the doses out as much as possible. You could run this 4-6 weeks without much trouble.

Since you have AAS experience, you should already know how to run your support/pct. I would suggest .5mg anastrozole EOD, liver support however it’s recommended, and tamoxifen for 4 weeks starting the day after last dose, 40/40/20/20.

I would also suggest running Test as a base for this, at least at TRT levels, if not higher. Not necessary, but if you have it, it’d be a good idea.

HCG is likely not needed for such a short cycle, but it can’t hurt.


#4

I can’t see it doing much for you if you’re already an experienced user. Why not just add it as your oral kickstart for your next cycle?


#5

Have you dabbled in the prohormone/designer steroid world much Yogi?


#6

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Have you dabbled in the prohormone/designer steroid world much Yogi?[/quote]

a tiny bit mate, yeah. Got given some epistane once so I did a cheeky 4 week run with it. I forget the dose. It was ok I suppose, gained a lb or two and strength went up a little with my physique looking a little harder, but it wasn’t worth shutting myself down for. Didn’t really feel all that shutdown and PCT was a breeze but still, it’s a stress to your system.

Last cycle I ran I used mehtylstenbolone for the last 3 weeks and it was AMAZING! Strength, fullness, hardness were all incredible. If I had to compare it to something, I’d say it was like anavar on steroids, if you see what I mean. It’ll be a staple in all my future cycles from now on, or at least for as long as it stays legal.


#7

What dose did you run the methylsten at?


#8

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
What dose did you run the methylsten at?[/quote]

30mg/day. I was also running 800mg test and 600mg EQ at the time. Next time I’ll run 40mg a day for 4 weeks. That’ll be mega sexy. Didn’t seem to have any sides at all.


#9

Thanks alot flipcollar, I have everything you started in hand, was just worried about it having 3 methylated substances and the liver toxicity coming with it. I have two buddies who’s been with the cycle and pct, and both have kept 26 and 22lbs 3 weeks after pct was done, which is ridiculous. Never had a problem with estradiol, so I’ll just keep my anastrzole in hand in case I notice sides. Still debating if I take HCG week 2-4. Appreciate the help


#10

3 methyl compounds is quite a few, but the total mg’s, at 2 doses a day, would be 110 (for the methyl’s specifically). That’s not too crazy. And again, the cycle is short, so that should mitigate liver damage. I do agree with Yogi about this being best used in combination with Test as a kickstarter. But there’s a decent chance you’ll get reasonable results as a standalone cycle.


#11

flip, when are you making a log on this section? i think it would be pretty interesting.


#12

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
flip, when are you making a log on this section? i think it would be pretty interesting.[/quote]

x2, you’re well overdue a cycle!


#13

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
flip, when are you making a log on this section? i think it would be pretty interesting.[/quote]

I agree.


#14

I made a rule for myself that I needed to be a competent poster in this section before using. If I don’t understand this stuff well enough to explain it to others, I feel like I have no business using. That’s why you’ve seen me posting here recently. I Still have a lot to learn, but I think I’m approaching an adequate knowledge base for a first cycle.


#15

you definitely know enough to start, plus there’s nothing wrong with learning more for next time while starting at the same time! No time to waste

and i’d like to add, a lot of knowledge comes from first hand experience


#16

you definitely know enough, I’d say.

-You know doses
-You know AIs
-You know hCG
-You know PCT

and the really good thing is that you understand why you use things like an AI, SERM etc., instead of just doing it because some jacked dude down the local YMCA told you so.

You know more than I did before I started, definitely.


#17

Yep, knew more than me also, so join us flip, come to the darkside, muahaha (evil laugh)


#18

Anyone try this out?


#19

[quote]Digo576 wrote:
just recently got this pro hormone named “quad” , Ive translated the chemicals and I’ll list it down low. I’ve been cycling in the past, never done orals or liked orals from the fact that most are liver toxic. but as I stated I got this prohormone with 4 substances in which 3 are methylated, which worries me about the liver toxicity.

I have anastrozole, tamoxifen, clomid, liver support, 5000mg of HCG and other substances that I’ve had for other cycle. I have to buy some other substances in case I run it. I have good experiences with AAS but is this worth a shot? I planned on running test, deca and dbol before I got this, but I see people making very good gains on this. What are thoughts on this? Open minded to opinions

17b-hydroxy-2a,17b-dimethyl-5a-androstan-3-one-azine (Dymethazine) 10mg

4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol. (Halovar) 25mg

Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione (Trenavar) 15mg

2,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol (Epistane). 20mg. [/quote]

i hate Superdrol, and the Dymethazine is supposedly quite similar…

i wouldn’t touch it. S-drol made me feel the worst i’ve felt in my life, minus actually being sick…


#20

I just got the same stuff and it doesn’t even have a manufacturer name on the bottle. What’s the deal with this stuff? It says 2 capsules a day but it doesn’t say how. 1 in the morning 1 at night? Or both at the same time? Morning? Midday?