I believe that is exactly what he’s saying. X wanted to look huge AND off season bodybuilder like (big arms, delts, upper traps, upper pecs and tie in, etc) when in everyday clothes with strength as a mostly secondary concern with conditioning and mobility/functionality as tertiary and non concern respectively.
A different example, SteelyD wanted to be strong as fuck in a general sense (not just PL) and look imposing and large in everyday clothes, but not necessarily focusing on the bro muscles. Functionality is definitely a primary concern for someone like him since - even if he denies it - since his gym strength can and will carry over to everyday activities. Body fat is probably a tertiary concern or a non concern.
IS (more so Heavythrower at this point) has a non-fat amateur PL type build, relatively thick quads and an overall solid build, with little focus on bro muscles. I’m not sure what his goals or concerns are at this point.
Can you have everything or close to it : sure, look at Synergy (John Schlecht) and Thibz for example.
It really makes me think about presentation and focus. Compare the physiques and workouts of Infinite shore and PX. Big differences in both aspects[/quote]
Infinite_Shore hasn’t been training anywhere near as long as X.[/quote]
Yeah, but IS does a lot of exercises that have much more of an impact on the body. I THINK that’s what he meant.
X, do you think you can start a thread on your intake. I’ll count up the macros and kcals for you. [/quote]
just my viewpoint - contrasting brutal daily squat maxing out vs getting an upper body pump on machines. Clearly all of us have different goals, but it just makes me think about how much my focused changed for the better and worse the more I “learned.” FWIW for my goals I think both should be focused on[/quote]
What exactly are you trying to say about the two posters physiques? I’m not completely sure[/quote]
Yeah I was wondering the same thing…InfiniteShore has some beastly numbers in the weightroom, but judging by the pictures in his thread he has more of a PL’er look, while X is more size oriented