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Professor X: How Do You Eat?


#1

It appears you love eating. I do too. Which is why I love to see big guys' daily menus.

With all this talk about around-the-clock eating you did in the "Six Meals a Day" thread, I'm curious about what you're packing in these days, and for noobs to see just how much time dedicated to eating and preparing and cleaning they're in for if they want to keep up with the big boys. I mean, you've been talking to down to noobs to bring them up. Do you think they know what they're in for if they want to keep up with this long term, through unemployment, through bankruptcy, through divorce, through another Hurricane Sandy, or perhaps a nuclear blast--just the sheer amount of food consumption necessary through thick and thin?

I know you're not a fan of measuring food. So perhaps someone else or I would take your diet and nutritionally analyze it--calculate calories and macros--for you.

I love reading permabulkers food logs too. One of the most entertaining was Dave Tate's in "The Dave Tate Project" article series in which he detailed how he closed in on an average of 10,000 to 12,000 calories per day.

Serious post. Not joking.


#2

You’re legitimately on a roll with these Brick.


#3

I would be interested in this too, but I could understand how X may not take the thread seriously or see it as an insult. On the topic of not counting macros or measuring food, I am curious as to why he is so opposed to it. While he obviously isn’t the leanest, as has been rehashed plenty of times, he has built a ton of muscle over the years and would look pretty damn impressive if he were to do a serious cut. I would think that at this stage in his lifting career, getting more meticulous with nutrition would be key to continuing to make progress. At some point, it seems like just “eating a lot” and “listening to your body” will only take you so far


#4

Unfortunately, even if Brick is serious, and X takes it seriously… I give it about a page to a page and a half before it becomes another troll contest for some of our posters to see who can piss X off the most. Assuming folks can control themselves, I’d be interested in hearing the story - seeing progress pics throughout the years, and learning.


#5

this will be new


#6

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Unfortunately, even if Brick is serious, and X takes it seriously… I give it about a page to a page and a half before it becomes another troll contest for some of our posters to see who can piss X off the most. Assuming folks can control themselves, I’d be interested in hearing the story - seeing progress pics throughout the years, and learning.[/quote]

I was obviously being goofy in my tone but my request is serious and there is no offensive or underhanded intention. Like I said, I love reading permabulkers’ food logs. Anyway, even if I’ve grown frustrated in some threads while speaking with X, at the end of the day I simply can’t take lifting and eating so seriously that I’ll be lead to dislike a man simply because he wants to lift and eat in the way he sees fit or because he has some opinion on how it should be done or his thought on how much muscle a natural man can build. I don’t have the emotional room for it, and I’m astonished that in this era there is a gang of internut celebs who have made a modus operandi of quibbling about what I think is some of the most inconsequential shit in the world (eg, following paleotards or broscientists around the net to belittle them isn’t fun to me). That’s not me at this point of life.

X has room to grow more muscle, I believe.


#7

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
You’re legitimately on a roll with these Brick. [/quote]

Thanks. :slight_smile:


#8

I expect nothing civil or useful to come out of this thread.


#9

Agreed.

We will see some more 1000 word essays from the usual posters though.

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I expect nothing civil or useful to come out of this thread. [/quote]


#10

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#11

[quote]pwolves17 wrote:
I would be interested in this too, but I could understand how X may not take the thread seriously or see it as an insult. On the topic of not counting macros or measuring food, I am curious as to why he is so opposed to it. While he obviously isn’t the leanest, as has been rehashed plenty of times, he has built a ton of muscle over the years and would look pretty damn impressive if he were to do a serious cut. I would think that at this stage in his lifting career, getting more meticulous with nutrition would be key to continuing to make progress. At some point, it seems like just “eating a lot” and “listening to your body” will only take you so far[/quote]

Agreed on all counts. However it takes a lot out of your ego to admit to yourself honestly that you may need a complete change in attitude and approach to CONTINUE progressing, regardless how impressive your progress has been till date.

Three things a lifter CAN learn from professor x’s progress :

  • The simple minded “eat big, lift frequently and try to add weight to the bar at all costs and train EVERYTHING, compounds, isolation, everything” can take a person pretty damn far by itself. Beginners and intermediates should try to milk it for all its worth. Too many people on here think they’re advanced when they’re not.

  • While the basic stuff works a lot longer than most newbies think it does, dont be ashamed to admit to yourself when it eventually does stop working and switch tracks, or you’ll be forever stuck (psychologically for the most part) in permabulker territory.

  • Don’t avoid deadlifts, do train your posterior chain. Never become “unfunctional” (yeah I used that word, sue me)


#12

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I expect nothing civil or useful to come out of this thread. [/quote]

I’m hoping this will turn into a food p0rn thread with great burger recipes.
I think I will snap a pic of my diy burger tonight and post them here.

While we always tend to stress the shittiness of permabulking on here, sometimes we should celebrate the good aspects - stuffing oneself after a hard training session.


#13

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
While we always tend to stress the shittiness of permabulking on here, sometimes we should celebrate the good aspects - stuffing oneself after a hard training session. [/quote]

Could not agree more, would be interesting to here from the “other” side to gaining in a more comprehensive fashion.


#14

I’d be interested in this, I hope it doesn’t just devolve into shit-slinging. X’s thread from a few years back on how he trains was actually one of the most useful things I’ve read training-wise, but I also understand that he rubs guys up the wrong way.


#15

[quote]furo wrote:
I’d be interested in this, I hope it doesn’t just devolve into shit-slinging. X’s thread from a few years back on how he trains was actually one of the most useful things I’ve read training-wise, but I also understand that he rubs guys up the wrong way.[/quote]

Thanks and here is that thread.

I don’t rub people the wrong way.

People with self esteem issues get pissed when I don’t act like I am beneath them. That’s all.

If you want me to discuss things like this, I can make my own thread on it. You already know the goal of the guys who started this one so I probably won’t post in this one again.

Have a great one!


#16

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:
I’d be interested in this, I hope it doesn’t just devolve into shit-slinging. X’s thread from a few years back on how he trains was actually one of the most useful things I’ve read training-wise, but I also understand that he rubs guys up the wrong way.[/quote]

Thanks and here is that thread.

I don’t rub people the wrong way.

People with self esteem issues get pissed when I don’t act like I am beneath them. That’s all.

If you want me to discuss things like this, I can make my own thread on it. You already know the goal of the guys who started this one so I probably won’t post in this one again.

Have a great one![/quote]

Thanks buddy, you too :slight_smile:


#17

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:
I’d be interested in this, I hope it doesn’t just devolve into shit-slinging. X’s thread from a few years back on how he trains was actually one of the most useful things I’ve read training-wise, but I also understand that he rubs guys up the wrong way.[/quote]

Thanks and here is that thread.

I don’t rub people the wrong way.

People with self esteem issues get pissed when I don’t act like I am beneath them. That’s all.

If you want me to discuss things like this, I can make my own thread on it. You already know the goal of the guys who started this one so I probably won’t post in this one again.

Have a great one![/quote]

The irony in this post is amazing.


#18

That thread needs to be updated with the #s actually hit. db preacher curls weren’t even true.

I think PX can teach us that bodybuilding is truly just creating an illusion. That is actually an essential lesson for every successful bodybuilder


#19

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
That thread needs to be updated with the #s actually hit. db preacher curls weren’t even true.

I think PX can teach us that bodybuilding is truly just creating an illusion. That is actually an essential lesson for every successful bodybuilder[/quote]

Or claiming he benched 405 after a year of training (or whatever) but struggling with a band assisted 315 on video after 15 years of training while weighing close to 280…


#20

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
That thread needs to be updated with the #s actually hit. db preacher curls weren’t even true.

I think PX can teach us that bodybuilding is truly just creating an illusion. That is actually an essential lesson for every successful bodybuilder[/quote]

Or claiming he benched 405 after a year of training (or whatever) but struggling with a band assisted 315 on video after 15 years of training while weighing close to 280…[/quote]
To come to his defense, he admittedly uses mostly machines because he doesn’t have a training partner and there is less risk of injury with heavy loads. If I recall correctly?

If you don’t do a lift regularly it’s tough jumping back in for the first time.