Procrastinator's Anonymous

I am in the same boat Way.

Skated through high school doing the bare minimum required. Still got good grades and got into a good school.

College- same situation. I procrastinated til deadlines were right on top of me, and then I would typically kick out amazing work since I had adapted to this style. I tend to find my mind in a fog here lately, until I am put into a situation- in which case I kick it into high gear.

I agree that it seems expectations are set much lower. I can skate by and still seem like an overachiever to many. I had a teacher/friend in college that pulled me aside a few years later and told me that he always thought I could do well, but he was disappointed in me because I never applied myself- and he could see this! This gave me motivation for a little while, but even that diminished.

Everyonce in a while, you just need to reevaluate yourself and see what needs improvement. Whenever I start thinking like this, I think of things that I have done and the way I have disappointed myself with my efforts, and that will help drive me- but still no permanent solution.

I have been hoping it is a product of still being young, somewhat immature, and having no responsibilities to anyone but myself, but I know it is something that needs to be adjusted. I will continue to follow this thread as it is interesting to listen to others situations.

Oh. and my favorite quote to summarize this is:

“Procrastination is like masturbation- In the end, you’re only screwing yourself!”

The reason why expectations are so low is because everyone has the mindset that they can skate by and still achieve more than most. No one out there is working as hard as they can and underachieving. People are lazy, such is life.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
The reason why expectations are so low is because everyone has the mindset that they can skate by and still achieve more than most. No one out there is working as hard as they can and underachieving. People are lazy, such is life.[/quote]

Not that it’s a good reason, but I think part of the problem is that you can become accustomed to doing very well without exerting any effort in highschool. At least that’s my experience, and what we talk about in my education classes. It’s a hard habit to break, and could be easily avoided if some teachers put a bit more effort into challenging their kids.

[quote]polo77j wrote:
kross001 wrote:
polo77j wrote:

You should try making one long term goal and back tracking towards the present day, setting up little goals that will eventually lead to you accomplishing your long term goal; this should be an everyday thing.

For example, (this is one of my short goals that I also broke down into increments to accomplish) I wanted to read The Fountainhead immediately followed with Atlas Shrugged so I figured out how much reading that was (a lot!) and gave myself a goal of two months to complete … broke it down into sections and next thing I knew I had em both read in a month and a half. All the while accomplishing other things also. It’s all about positive time management.

This is very practical advice Polo. I think a part-time procrastinator like myself would do well to heed this example and apply it to all my projects at work. Thanks

Occam’s Razor … now with 25% more Occam!![/quote]

Mo’ Occam Mo’ better

am in the same boat but this always helps

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Oh. and my favorite quote to summarize this is:

“Procrastination is like masturbation- In the end, you’re only screwing yourself!”[/quote]

Uh, yeah, but the pay off is WAY different.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
coolnatedawg wrote:
Oh. and my favorite quote to summarize this is:

“Procrastination is like masturbation- In the end, you’re only screwing yourself!”

Uh, yeah, but the pay off is WAY different.[/quote]

I’m not so sure about that. Either way, you’ve left yourself with a sticky little mess to clean up.

[quote]ctschneider wrote:
Professor X wrote:
coolnatedawg wrote:
Oh. and my favorite quote to summarize this is:

“Procrastination is like masturbation- In the end, you’re only screwing yourself!”

Uh, yeah, but the pay off is WAY different.

I’m not so sure about that. Either way, you’ve left yourself with a sticky little mess to clean up.[/quote]

Masturbation makes me feel content and satisfied. Procrastination makes me feel discontent and unsatisfied.

I’d say masturbation and procrastination are complete opposites.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Masturbation makes me feel content and satisfied. Procrastination makes me feel discontent and unsatisfied.

I’d say masturbation and procrastination are complete opposites.[/quote]

I was going to come up with an incredibly witty reply to this (something about masturbation and procrastination often being related), but I decided to put it off and go masturbate first. I’m leaving this spot blank for whenever I get around to my witty reply.


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[quote]ctschneider wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:

Masturbation makes me feel content and satisfied. Procrastination makes me feel discontent and unsatisfied.

I’d say masturbation and procrastination are complete opposites.

I was going to come up with an incredibly witty reply to this (something about masturbation and procrastination often being related), but I decided to put it off and go masturbate first. I’m leaving this spot blank for whenever I get around to my witty reply.


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lol.

I’ve definitely got a bad case of this, came through high school a complete procrastanator and followed it up with 2 years of College, which, being honest, was VERY easy overall and I didn’t apply myself till the last minute, still ending up with a AAB grade which got me into…

University- Where I realise what proper research and scholarly work entails, can hardly say I’ve “got going” in my first term though, I’ve read literally a few chapters worth of reading and done 1000 words worth of writing so far. I’m pretty behind in where I should be and I know i should be doing something like a reccomended 10+ hours reading a week. I think what I like to do is say I’ll get THAT together first (eg. training and nutrition), THEN I’ll go out and have some fun, AFTER THAT I’ll get my work done. Whilst I don’t believe “I need to get my priorities straight” I DO believe it’s absolutely essensial to plan/time manage, because that process alone for me helps so so much, I get alot more done in the day if I wrote a list the night before or that morning, generally.

Another thing I like to remind myself every now and again is “most shit doesn’t actually take long to do, at all” meaning mostly, taking out my rubbish, hanging up my clothes, doing my laundry etc etc. are all things that are little to no effort or time, but actually doing these leaves me with far less “things to do”, once you bring your things to do down to having done everything little, you’ll see you only have work left and it’s really your only option, it also makes you think clearer. I also find tidying up often helps me a bit, and avoiding watching things or listening to music, at the very least, to maintain some level of concentration/not let my mind wonder.

Nate Green is one of my biggest motivators when it comes to this sort of thing, I see him as a having everything I want and his blog gives a no-bullshit approach of how he did it… it’s really quite doable if your organised.

Also this (aswell as some of the books he refers to in another blog post:

http://www.thenategreenexperience.com/blog/Organize+Like+a+Badass+-+3+Must-Have+Tools

I’m going to refer to this thread EVERY time I need to do work. I will even start some work tonight, literally straight after this shower, I’m not going to bed till I have done something at least.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Replied to 3 PMs now. Just checking they got through OK.

BBB[/quote]

Mind PMing me the info bushy?

Please disregard my epic long post on page 1 and just read the post by WhiteFlash.

Polo basically said what I was trying to say: break down a task and you will be amazed at how much more manageable a task can become when you dedicate a chunk of time to each phase of the task.

People procrastinate and create anxiety for themselves by leaving a simple task (simple relative to the time the task was first assigned so that a larger amount of time could be dedicated to its completion) until the last minute.

You break up meals, don’t you?

Would you rather get in 5,000 calories in one meal or spread that out over 5 meals? How would you rather eat daily?

Also, what PX said: don’t think you can continue to afford the large amount of food and supplements you are consuming now when you get older and have bills and rent. You will NEED a decent paying job, and it’s better to have an interest in what you are doing so that you come home every night with some satisfaction about the 8-10 hours you put in that day.

About choosing something you’re passionate about for a career…

The only two things I’m really passionate about in this world are music and women. I’m a decent guitar player and vocalist, and I think I could be pretty fucking good at it if I devoted myself and tried to reach a professional level. However, I choose to pursue a career in something that I have little passion for, simply for the money and free time it will give me. I don’t want to be chasing the dream all my life, because the chance of me making serious money off of it is so slim, regardless of how skilled I become.

Some may say that is a sad way to look at it, but I disagree. I’ll keep music as a hobby regardless of what I do to put food on the table.

[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
About choosing something you’re passionate about for a career…

The only two things I’m really passionate about in this world are music and women. I’m a decent guitar player and vocalist, and I think I could be pretty fucking good at it if I devoted myself and tried to reach a professional level. However, I choose to pursue a career in something that I have little passion for, simply for the money and free time it will give me. I don’t want to be chasing the dream all my life, because the chance of me making serious money off of it is so slim, regardless of how skilled I become.

Some may say that is a sad way to look at it, but I disagree. I’ll keep music as a hobby regardless of what I do to put food on the table.
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How is that sad? It is realistic. I am a little tired of the whole “get a job you LOVE and don’t worry about the money” bullshit that gets spewed to every college kid. Look, I LOVE sleeping, eating, fucking and lifting. Unfortunately, short of prostitution, none of those really make any money. People who not only procrastinate but go through life thinking they actually DESERVE to have some type of dream job that pays well that they LOOOOVE…are fucking idiots. I like my job. It is challenging, however, to think you should have a career that you would love doing for free is pretty ridiculous.

Sacrifices are a part of life and I get the feeling a lot of these guys are going to be surprised at how much they wish they could improve their standard of living after they fuck off all four- five years of college.

Love don’t pay the bills and to my knowledge, money issues are still the number one reason for failed marriages.

at least we’re not reproducing so thats a plus.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Mr.Purple wrote:
About choosing something you’re passionate about for a career…

The only two things I’m really passionate about in this world are music and women. I’m a decent guitar player and vocalist, and I think I could be pretty fucking good at it if I devoted myself and tried to reach a professional level. However, I choose to pursue a career in something that I have little passion for, simply for the money and free time it will give me. I don’t want to be chasing the dream all my life, because the chance of me making serious money off of it is so slim, regardless of how skilled I become.

Some may say that is a sad way to look at it, but I disagree. I’ll keep music as a hobby regardless of what I do to put food on the table.

How is that sad? It is realistic. I am a little tired of the whole “get a job you LOVE and don’t worry about the money” bullshit that gets spewed to every college kid. Look, I LOVE sleeping, eating, fucking and lifting. Unfortunately, short of prostitution, none of those really make any money. People who not only procrastinate but go through life thinking they actually DESERVE to have some type of dream job that pays well that they LOOOOVE…are fucking idiots. I like my job. It is challenging, however, to think you should have a career that you would love doing for free is pretty ridiculous.

Sacrifices are a part of life and I get the feeling a lot of these guys are going to be surprised at how much they wish they could improve their standard of living after they fuck off all four- five years of college.

Love don’t pay the bills and to my knowledge, money issues are still the number one reason for failed marriages.[/quote]

I agree on all counts. I like my job, but I like my free time better. I also think that turning what you love into your job can easily kill that joy for you.

Would I like video games as much as I do if I was working as a video game developer? I don’t really think so.

[quote]greggio wrote:
Same story as you waylander, I am just older. I didn’t get my shit together until after college. I made it through my first to years without trying, got good scholarships, and then went to almost losing them and failing a class. I got by but now I look back and see it as an opportunity wasted. I could of got more out of it, and I could have done better. Luckily it didn’t screw me out of any future opportunities.
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Thats pretty much exactly the same story as mine. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had spent a year working after I finished year 12 instead of going straight to University. Preferably in a boring, shitty job.

I have spent the last year working full time in a pretty stressful job. As a direct result of experiencing the realities of working life, if I headed back to Uni now, motivating myself wouldn’t even be an issue.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I like to ask myself: “If I were an employer, would I hire ME amongst 100 other students applying for the same position/internship?”

“If I were a professor, would I budge MY grade 0.5 percentage points because I felt the student really cared by coming to my office hours and showing an exceptional enthusiasm in my lecture?”

“If I were a chick, would I date ME? Do I have my shit together?”

I’ve realized that a LOT of what I would have called procrastination a few years ago is a combination of anxiety and obsessive compulsiveness.

For instance, if I refresh this web site 97 mother fucking times because I DON’T want to write a paper, my anxiety has kicked in because the paper is due the next morning (and is 15 pages and I am kidding myself by thinking I’m some badass novelist who’ll churn out a polished paper in 6 hours) and my obsessive compulsiveness has found a new “outlet” for my anxiety: this web site.

That’s what I think procrastination is, a combination of anxiety and obsessive compulsiveness AND a severe underestimation of the time required to deliver a QUALITY product. Think about that: say you need one night to churn out a 15 page paper but is it quality? You are not awarded on effort, you are awarded on QUALITY of finished product. Nobody says, “Waylander! You wrote 15 pages in 3 hours? You deserve an A+”

A paper might take a few days to research the topic, another day or two to really get the juices flowing, then a day to do an outline and edit it, another day or two to write it, then another 2-3 days to edit, re-read and edit again. THAT is a quality product, something that has gone through honest QUALITY CONTROL and not bullshit control.

I’ll take a due date for a future project/paper/quiz, estimate how much time I need for each phase, block off each phase on my Google Calendar and keep track of it. So long as I have completed work that is relevant to the current phase according to the calendar, then I am on track and I will NOT have regrets about abusing my time.

Really, what you need to understand is that your TIME is a resource that is forever fleeting and that YOU are the only person in charge of that resource. Do you hate when people waste your time? If so, why do YOU waste your own time?

If people find out how much time you waste, how will you ever convince them that your time is valuable? How will you EARN their respect FOR your time? You won’t unless you take your own time seriously.

Just about everything you do should have a return on investment. Do you want to be 28 years old and still hitting clubs, waiting in some stupid ass line with a bunch of idiots, or do you want to at least have your own place where you and friends can chill until ANY hour you want (because fuck that “last call” bullshit) and you can always retreat to?

If you dated a chick at 28 (arbitrary) that still lived with her parents and worked at the front desk somewhere instead of having a true career path, would you take her seriously, as a potential long term mate? Or would you worry about having to support her and paying her student loans and shopping habits?

Do you want to afford healthcare one day for yourself, like a good PPO plan so that you can see a specialist that YOU researched (say, an endocrinologist or a good ART practitioner you learned about here), or do you want to be stuck with a crappy HMO and be at the mercy of imbecile doctors?

Do you want to set aside money every month for a trip fund, emergency fund and retirement fund? Do you think you will never be unemployed and stuck with the SAME bills as before (i.e., bill you can’t afford on unemployment, requiring you to pay them down from another source of income - savings).

Anecdotally, you can fuck up and goof off until just before 30 years of age, and society will GENERALLY forgive you for it as part of the “ignorance of youth.” Once you get up there in age, you need to have your shit together, if not for others to take you seriously than to at least be able to feed yourself.

Definitely pursue something quickly; people will care more (and respect you more) if you had an idea and pursued it than if you have 1000 ideas that sound grand but never get any of them off the ground. You see a ton of these folks in business school, folks that think throwing out famous names and strategies and vernacular make them SOUND busy when they are really just spinning their gears getting nowhere.

People care that you shoot to kill. Have a great idea that is honestly legit? Run with it, then talk about your success/failure and people will listen, even people with equal or more experience, which will end up facilitating an exchange of wisdom and possibly some quality NETWORKING that may hook you up with a job or someone important.

I love when people talk about NOT caring about money. Money should NOT be a motivating factor but money IS important; you want the decent neighborhood for you and your girlfriend or eventual family to live in, so your kids can go to a decent school or so you are close enough to everything that commuting to work/entertainment/daily necessities won’t drive you nuts (like far away in the suburbs if that’s not your thing). You want to pay off those student loans while still affording rent, gas, and a vacation here and there. Just examples but all realistic and common scenarios.

Translation: if you START something, make sure it is worthwhile but for God’s sake, FINISH.

And don’t forget that the more money you have, the easier it is to make money, generally speaking.


The above was not meant to be absolutely cohesive but just any piece of advice I could think of. The most important thing about serious “life” decisions:

It is easier than you think. The fact that most people don’t make the right choices or never follow through does NOT mean making something of yourself is DIFFICULT, it just means that that many people seriously overcomplicate it, psyche themselves out and end up blaming some arbitrary emotional ailment like ADD or procrastination.

You’re not very T if you’re still renting a room into your late 30s, don’t have a career and never finished your education but bench 500 lbs, squat 600 and DL 800 and have 8% bodyfat and never miss a meal…

Dig?[/quote]

Nice post.

Sadly my answers to your first three questions would be no, no and no. Luckily the rest of the world doesn’t know as much about me as what I know about myself.