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Powerlifting with Bodybuilder Style Diet

I know PLing is all about the maximum weight you can move, its nothing about you look. But i am still wondering if i do a body builder type clean diet, what i can get from it.

Since I am doing 5/3/1 currently, high reps on all assistance exercises which makes no difference to the body builder type workout. I know im not gonna get as defined as them, but am i going to be cut?

any one implements this?


I am unsure what a body builder type clean diet is, but I achieved this when I was cutting down to my weight class for my last meet.

I posted my results in a rate my physique thread that you can view here.

I imagine that, if you lift weights and eat well, you will get bigger and stronger without putting on much fat.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I am unsure what a body builder type clean diet is, but I achieved this when I was cutting down to my weight class for my last meet.

I posted my results in a rate my physique thread that you can view here.

I imagine that, if you lift weights and eat well, you will get bigger and stronger without putting on much fat.[/quote]
Please chime in on the “Muscle Gains Dependant on Routine” thread lol

We’ll said and lookin great.

[quote]gregron wrote:
We’ll said and lookin great.[/quote]

Thanks man. I saw that thread and was tempted to join in, but I figured the language barrier was going to make things difficult. Anytime I see the words “hypertrophy routine”, I cringe.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I am unsure what a body builder type clean diet is, but I achieved this when I was cutting down to my weight class for my last meet.

I posted my results in a rate my physique thread that you can view here.

I imagine that, if you lift weights and eat well, you will get bigger and stronger without putting on much fat.[/quote]

looks great
i was wondering how your conditioning looks like and your diet?
Thanks

[quote]death_ak wrote:
looks great
i was wondering how your conditioning looks like and your diet?
Thanks[/quote]

Most of that info was in that thread I linked. This was what I posted for daily diet during that time.

0630
2 scoops of whey in milk

0800
1 fiber one brownie (Every 3 days I go with a cup of oatmeal instead to avoid slipping into ketosis)

1030
1lb of meat
1 bag of salad or 1lb of veggies

1430
Some sort of 100 calorie thing

1730
Similar to 1030 meal

1900
Same as 0630 meal

I was doing zero conditioning at that point in my training since I was eating so little and losing weight. I save my conditioning work for the off season, when I am eating more and recovering better. These days, for conditioning, I’m big on applying the Tabata protocol to big compound movements ala Dan John. Right now, I’ll do tabata log clean and press, axle clean and press, front squats, safety squat bar squats, stone trainer, etc. I’ll generally pick a movement that is similar to one I trained the prior day to aid my recovery (ie: if yesterday was press day, I’ll do clean and press. If it was squat day, I’ll do squats).

If it’s not tabata work, I like to drag a sled or go for a walk, something low intensity that helps with recovery. Every once in a while, I’ll do a 15 minute circuit workout where I go for as many rounds as possible with some movements (right now I like doing KB swing to dip to chin, repeat).

I’d caution you against having an either/or mentality when it comes to powerlifting (being strong) and bodybuilding (looking good). As the Pwnisher showed in this thread, it’s quite possible to be a beast and move some heavy ass weights and still have an impressive physique. Most good powerlifters would have very respectable physiques if they leaned up. Now, some may not have the most “aesthetic” look (probably lacking in rear delt development, might have blocky waists, not a lot of direct arm work, etc.). But they’ll still be pretty damn big and muscular. As far as bodybuilders being only about looks, you’d be hard pressed to find a big, impressive looking guy who can’t move some respectable weights.

This is kind of a rambling post haha, so take it for what it’s worth. Back to studying, 2 finals tomorrow :slight_smile:

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]death_ak wrote:
looks great
i was wondering how your conditioning looks like and your diet?
Thanks[/quote]

Most of that info was in that thread I linked. This was what I posted for daily diet during that time.

0630
2 scoops of whey in milk

0800
1 fiber one brownie (Every 3 days I go with a cup of oatmeal instead to avoid slipping into ketosis)

1030
1lb of meat
1 bag of salad or 1lb of veggies

1430
Some sort of 100 calorie thing

1730
Similar to 1030 meal

1900
Same as 0630 meal

I was doing zero conditioning at that point in my training since I was eating so little and losing weight. I save my conditioning work for the off season, when I am eating more and recovering better. These days, for conditioning, I’m big on applying the Tabata protocol to big compound movements ala Dan John. Right now, I’ll do tabata log clean and press, axle clean and press, front squats, safety squat bar squats, stone trainer, etc. I’ll generally pick a movement that is similar to one I trained the prior day to aid my recovery (ie: if yesterday was press day, I’ll do clean and press. If it was squat day, I’ll do squats).

If it’s not tabata work, I like to drag a sled or go for a walk, something low intensity that helps with recovery. Every once in a while, I’ll do a 15 minute circuit workout where I go for as many rounds as possible with some movements (right now I like doing KB swing to dip to chin, repeat).[/quote]

Obviously what you’re doing is working great but I have a question. Why do you want to consciously avoid Ketosis?

Fat Powerlifters…

[quote]The_Jed wrote:

Obviously what you’re doing is working great but I have a question. Why do you want to consciously avoid Ketosis?[/quote]

I haven’t known anyone that was in a state of ketosis and made decent strength gains. For me, its one less variable to plan around in my training.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]The_Jed wrote:

Obviously what you’re doing is working great but I have a question. Why do you want to consciously avoid Ketosis?[/quote]

I haven’t known anyone that was in a state of ketosis and made decent strength gains. For me, its one less variable to plan around in my training.[/quote]

Just the milk is probably enough to keep you out of ketosis. The milk and the fiber 1 brownie thing almost definitely would.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]The_Jed wrote:

Obviously what you’re doing is working great but I have a question. Why do you want to consciously avoid Ketosis?[/quote]

I haven’t known anyone that was in a state of ketosis and made decent strength gains. For me, its one less variable to plan around in my training.[/quote]

Just the milk is probably enough to keep you out of ketosis. The milk and the fiber 1 brownie thing almost definitely would.[/quote]

There is a very good chance of that. I honestly do not research nutrition, I just copy success.

Who is that PL’er pictured in black n white? Second one, dude with the beard looks like from the '70s??

That’s an incredibly powerful look.

The guy dead lifting.

[quote]Brett620 wrote:
Who is that PL’er pictured in black n white? Second one, dude with the beard looks like from the '70s??

That’s an incredibly powerful look. [/quote]

Roger Estep (when you see him called Roger Ester it’s an error). He came in 2nd (90kg class) at the world championships in 1979.

^^ That is the definition of “dense”.