Mister T. wrote:
Wrong! Power is the amount of energy spent per unit time or equivalently, force exerted throughout a given velocity:
P = E/t = F*v
Powerlifting is a correct term because we are trying to lift extremely heavy loads quickly–i.e., maximizing power. Olympic style lifts require much higher velocities and therefore could be consider ultra-power lifts.
What I don’t understand is why is the assumption here powerlifters want to lift slow?
Knowing that WR clean and jerk is approximately what 585 lbs the fastest part was from chest to overhead at about .7 seconds.
WR Raw bench 715lbs done in about 1 second sounds like roughly equivelant power, just different muscles.
Velocity = Distance / Time.
While the time MAY be only slightly slower in a powerlift, the distance is definitely shorter. Compare lifting a weight from the floor to above the head, as opposed to…locking out your arms.
Jesus this is a stupid discussion.
but it still helps to kill time.
I was using velocity. Just using peak velocity(See above where I stated from chest to overhead just for people like you), not average. If you want to go by average velocity. Then powerlifting is either equally or more powerful.
Considering for a WR C&J your cleaning as fast as you can but to a low enough position where you can get under it then stabilize and raise yourself stabilize again then jerk to an overhead position. Which for the world record of 585 took about 19 seconds (d = 7.5 ft), which is EXTREMELY less powerful then 715 d = 1.25 ft in 1 second.[/quote]
Yeah, but in the C&J, there’s the rest time when the bar is racked and it’s not moving at all.
If you want to get real technical, use the snatch instead of the C&J.
Yeah, fucking split second from the floor to overhead.
This is - bar none - the most stupid discussion I’ve ever been involved in on this forum.