—Mertdawg, come on man just listen to yourself…
Fine, valid point, how about ‘range of motion’ since we’re discussing things that are moot points. From the floor to overhead is an INCREDIBLE distance compared to a bench press or even a squat!
How about we DEFINE strength…since we’re arguing louie’s point about 400lb cleans vs 800lb squats and what not.
We all know about the mexico olympic experiments where Olifters out performed everyone in almost every aspect of fitness.
Regardless of what you say, I want to see a powerlifter with a huge squat, dead, and bench… does he have an equally insane vertical? can he beat olympic level sprinters in the first 30yrds of a sprint? How flexible is he? How well do they do when moving over to other sports, say strongman training? They do reasonably well…but who’s been tearing it up lately? OLYMPIC LIFTERS (ie, zydrunas zavickas,et al)
Now, i’m going to combat my own arguement by mentioning that this is not the powerlifter’s intention…they are a weight moving animal, nothing more. Fine, strength, how much can your powerlifter overhead squat? A 1.5x bodyweight OH squat is no joke, it’s something you can’t fake. You can’t wear a suit to make you better at it. Not knocking powerlifters, cause they do what they do…and they’re DAMN good at it. Their strength is unmatched but thats defining it in the realm of their sport!
But even Louie (and CW) have been trying to bash into our heads the importance of speed… why doesn’t anyone heed their cries?
If you want to take athletes that apply westside principles and have incredible all around results… look at **Defranco’s athletes… nuff said, these kids are INCREDIBLE. BEYOND incredible! I’m editing my post just to bring more attention to this point (hahaha), ME and DE lifts WORK plain and simple.
Though, olifting combines both of these you have to admit…just think about it… heavy weights lifted fast…
So what’s the point…Olifting, powerlifting… don’t be foolish. Training with an emphasis on SPEED is what is key.
It’s key for being “functional”, it’s even key for gaining size/mass.
Hell I learned that when i was still reading “THE CODE” every week.
Don’t just immediately knock olifting though it has a lot to offer in EVERY department.