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Possible Gyno Worsening


#42

Do you feel like your chest has stopped gaining fat? I always had a tingling sensation


#43

My test is pressing in on my nipple. When I started TRT it felt like what I can best describe as “crunchy”. They were hard and it did not feel good to press on them. That has died down a lot.

Last week I started injecting EOD and doing anastrozole .125 EOD. Things died down dramatically but I think that had more to do with having burned off a lot of fat and minimizing and spreading out my dosing. I am going back to the originally prescribed dose and will push my blood work back to a couple weeks so I’m steady stabilized and see where I’m at. I don’t want to crash my E2 as I have enough issue with aches and pains to begin with.


#44

Yeah crashing e2 can be miserable


#45

The severe crazy swelling on the side of my breast has subsided. I would rather risk crashing my E2 if it meant I was not embarrassed to wear even a t-shirt. It was off the hook bad first 6 weeks of TRT. Deeply embarrassing. I have/had really sculpted muscular pecs. I think dabbling with Finasteride back in 1998 is when I started to get significant fatty tissue on my chest. I didn’t link it to using Finasteride in part because of the marketing they did to make it seem safe. It is not safe for men at all. I am at least going to try lip but will let the surgeon evaluate if I have true gyno.


#47

Anyone think 140 mg a week is too much?

I keep seeing threads where guys on high doses are told that 100 mg is better.


#48

100mg is too much for me, 84mg total weekly dosage gets Free T past high normal.


#49

Why do doctors start guys out so high?

I felt like my estrogen was flying off the charts when I started.

I just want normal to high normal levels.


#50

They dont all do that. My doc started me off on 100mg E14D. It was awful. I would have much rather started out at 200mg E7D and then titrate the dosage.


#51

I made an appointment for a consult with a plastic surgeon next week. I will get my bloodwork done tomorrow to see how I’m doing for my first follow up with Defy… I dropped back to .125 Anastrozole 2x a week and am injecting HCG daily and test EOD. I doubt the doctor at defy will mind if I tell him I changed my dosing schedule as much if I’m staying at the prescribed totals.

I’ll keep this updated when I get my result from the surgeon consult and my labs. I’m very interested to see where my E2 levels have settled in at.


#52

No that I am back to 2 doses of .125 for a week I feel a little nipple sensitivity and it does seem like some water retention in my chest. I put off getting blood-work this morning since I did not to my shot until later in the day yesterday and will go tomorrow before work. I was sad to see one of the guys pioneering this therapy passed today. For guys starting out looking for reassurance that of course does not help.


#53

I submitted my blood work this morning. I’m going to drop down to .15ml of 200 mg/ml test C EOD and drop my AI. I’m going to daily dose HCG still. Im going to see how 105 mg a week feels of total test with no AI while I wait for blood work. Im guessing my T totals are fairly good now. Not sure on E2. I think I’d rather cruise at 105 and blast a little during swim season. We’ll see. I’ll post my labs when I get them.

I am hoping my titty fat issues and general water retention die down with less test. 205 lbs and looking leaner would be nice.


#54

IF fat is an issue and you are also looking for a little endurance why don’t you look into a peptide?
Like GW-501516 Cardarine.


#55

Where do you get something like that?

My problem was mostly water retention I think.

Maybe a little gyno induced. I’ll let you guys know.


#56

Googles your friend. Use the exact letters numbers and word in your search.
The management here does not like posting links or pushing a product that is not a sponsor.


#57

I totally get that.

Thanks for the tip.