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Posing Music

Hi guys. Some of you may know me if you spend any amount of time on the Steroid forum, where I can usually be found. I hope that you can be of help to me here though, as I am completely out of my element when I ask about this stuff. The story is, I will be joining my first bodybuilding competition on July 27th. I have my diet, training and cycle down, and I’m not worried about those things (though I’ll probably have some last week diet/water/sodium manipulation questions later on down the road). What I don’t have down is my music and posing routine. This is a small show, so (thankfully) the routine is quite short (only 1 minute 30 seconds), but this is also to my detriment, because it is nearly impossible to find suitable music that is so short.

So my questions are these:

  1. Does anyone have any experience editing music that could direct me to a VERY user friendly method of editing a song (MP3)? I know very little about computers, so the simpler the better.

  2. I would like to hear your suggestions for music that is great for posing. I’m open to just about any genre (exept country!), I’m more concerned about providing an emotional impact for the audience.

Also, to give you an idea of posing routines I like, I have found Ed Corney and Frank Zane to have terrific, fluid, classy routines, and I would like to do something which emulates their style.

I know this is a long post and I appreciate your reading this far. I look forward to your imput. Thanks!

My choice would be from Gustav Holst’s “The Planets”, and I’d choose “Mars: Bringer of War”. This piece will bring goosebumps to any good posing routine. The problem is it’s over 7 minutes long. It would be an editing nightmare, really.

Another good one would be from the Gladiator Soundtrack. The track is called “Honor Him” and its 1:19 long! The song has a flowing slow pace, a small climax, and would work great with a Zane-like routine.

There’s also a track called “White Water Rafting” from The Descent Soundtrack that’s 1:29 long. No editing needed. But it’s very slow and flowing, with little transition.

If you’d like to have these tracks, PM your email address to me and I’ll send them right out.

Good Luck, Cortes

I would recommend the Charlie Daniels tune, “South’s gonna do it again” Seriously I was listening to this trance song that I would use, whenever i reach your level, because of the mood it sets. Its called Shock Your Senses by The Rush vs. Thalamus. Listen from 1:30 on. I would probably extend the build up and loop it. I would do a more classical posing routine to that one. my two centavos.

Cortes,
No clue how big Cheerleading is over there but if you can find a coach you can ask them who does their music. Often times it’s a complicated mix and they know good people to talk to. That way they can take the music you like and select the best aspects from it and mix it for you so there are no gaps or down time in the music.

Just a thought.

[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Cortes,
No clue how big Cheerleading is over there but if you can find a coach you can ask them who does their music. Often times it’s a complicated mix and they know good people to talk to. That way they can take the music you like and select the best aspects from it and mix it for you so there are no gaps or down time in the music.

Just a thought.[/quote]

Thanks Crew. Unfortunately the only manifestation of cheerleading I have ever seen in Japan has always manifested itself in porn :wink:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
My choice would be from Gustav Holst’s “The Planets”, and I’d choose “Mars: Bringer of War”. This piece will bring goosebumps to any good posing routine. The problem is it’s over 7 minutes long. It would be an editing nightmare, really.

Another good one would be from the Gladiator Soundtrack. The track is called “Honor Him” and its 1:19 long! The song has a flowing slow pace, a small climax, and would work great with a Zane-like routine.

There’s also a track called “White Water Rafting” from The Descent Soundtrack that’s 1:29 long. No editing needed. But it’s very slow and flowing, with little transition.

If you’d like to have these tracks, PM your email address to me and I’ll send them right out.

Good Luck, Cortes[/quote]

Thanks Iron Dwarf! I’m definitely interested in listening to these. PM time.

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I would recommend the Charlie Daniels tune, “South’s gonna do it again” Seriously I was listening to this trance song that I would use, whenever i reach your level, because of the mood it sets. Its called Shock Your Senses by The Rush vs. Thalamus. Listen from 1:30 on. I would probably extend the build up and loop it. I would do a more classical posing routine to that one. my two centavos.[/quote]

Thanks Growing_Boy, I’ll make sure and look into these.

Thanks to all of you guys again, who have contributed.

I’m going to give a small bump now for more suggestions and, of greater concern, another request for EDITING help!

I was joking about the Charlie Daniels Cortes! But check out the trance song.

Try digging through soundtracks. I’m thinking the main theme from Conan The Barbarian would be pretty cool.

S

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I was joking about the Charlie Daniels Cortes! But check out the trance song. [/quote]

Heh. Yeah, I think living in Japan for 6 years now I’ve become rather…insulated…

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Hi guys. Some of you may know me if you spend any amount of time on the Steroid forum, where I can usually be found. I hope that you can be of help to me here though, as I am completely out of my element when I ask about this stuff. The story is, I will be joining my first bodybuilding competition on July 27th. I have my diet, training and cycle down, and I’m not worried about those things (though I’ll probably have some last week diet/water/sodium manipulation questions later on down the road). What I don’t have down is my music and posing routine. This is a small show, so (thankfully) the routine is quite short (only 1 minute 30 seconds), but this is also to my detriment, because it is nearly impossible to find suitable music that is so short.

So my questions are these:

  1. Does anyone have any experience editing music that could direct me to a VERY user friendly method of editing a song (MP3)? I know very little about computers, so the simpler the better.

  2. I would like to hear your suggestions for music that is great for posing. I’m open to just about any genre (exept country!), I’m more concerned about providing an emotional impact for the audience.

Also, to give you an idea of posing routines I like, I have found Ed Corney and Frank Zane to have terrific, fluid, classy routines, and I would like to do something which emulates their style.

I know this is a long post and I appreciate your reading this far. I look forward to your imput. Thanks![/quote]

I posed to “Apologize” by One Republic. Not the watered down remix with timbaland but the real song. It’s pretty powerful. I did this before anybody even heard the song so it had a greater impact but it’s still an emotional song. I don’t know if your a man of faith but a lot of christian music is VERY powerful. I plan on using some christian songs for my next show. You don’t have to be a christian to use them of course but some might find it strange to listen to if you don’t want to portray that image. Casting Crowns and Jeremy Camp are great there.

As far as editing, I just burnt the one song on a cd. The way my competitions were ran was that you hand them your music and they will cut it off when your time is up. If you are talking about editing as far as adding 2+ songs together etc, I’m sorry but I can be of no help here…

When it comes to posing I just try to get all of my strong mandatories in and find some fluid way of transitioning. I think bodybuilding.com or youtube.com has a video of Bob Chicharillo teaching you how to hit the mandatories and quarter turns. As far as your routine just try and make it smooth with transitions. Other than that it’s pretty much your call on what poses you want to hit. I just youtube a lot of my favorite bodybuilders and watch their routines to get some ideas.

Also as far as my comps have been judged the pre-judging is the important part. The final show or your “routine” is more for your enjoyment to show off all the hard work :wink:

And I appreciate your time in the steroid forum. I lurk in there all the time and do my research on that topic based from this site. The test/tren/Dbol thread is great.

Hope this helped.

Long post long answer I guess. lol jk

Gerdy

Great stuff, Gerdy, thanks! I’m definitely going to look for Chicharillo’s instructional videos. I stumbled upon a video you can buy called Perfect Posing, but I just can’t justify spending the money on it.

I’m really working on getting a vaccuum pose down, but it’s a helluva lot harder than I thought.

With the vacuum pose try exhaling all of your breath completely and then suck in (make sense? lol). It is still a pain in the a$$ tho. lol I saw a guy at the last show I went to watch and he had it nailed. He even did it during prejudging with his front lat and front double bi. He didn’t do it in the ab n thigh tho. I’ve found that you need a small waist with exceptional lat development from the front to pull it off. It looked awesome tho.

Good luck with that, that would be sweet if you get it nailed.

Ya I wouldn’t spend any money learning how to pose unless it was a pro giving me personal lessons.

Here is that vid by chich…

Gerdy

Gerdy, i been having a go at the vacuum pose, as i have a mentzer-esque physique potentially, and i believe it would suit a front dble Bi, but it just wont suck in, it contracts first… know anywhere for good tips?

Sorry for hi-jack!!

I do love Zanes routine too… as everyone else! But i do know that alot of guys have tried to emulate it and not succeeded due to it being original to Zane. He also had a “beautiful” physique too… i say “beautiful” because i dont think BEAUTIFUL has the emphasis i desire… lmao!
I would tak a little from him, a little from corney, a little from dexter jackson… (J/K!!) and find your own style…I intend to use a peice of music that is catchy, flowing and gentle, probably not “pop” and maybe some classical even depending on quite the amount of fluid there ends up being in my routine.

It needs to suit your style, shape and “moves”, so something with a little “THUMP!” goes well with the little shake into final flex like dennis wolf (and zane) does.

JMObservations…

Joe

[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
Gerdy, i been having a go at the vacuum pose, as i have a mentzer-esque physique potentially, and i believe it would suit a front dble Bi, but it just wont suck in, it contracts first… know anywhere for good tips?

Sorry for hi-jack!!

I do love Zanes routine too… as everyone else! But i do know that alot of guys have tried to emulate it and not succeeded due to it being original to Zane. He also had a “beautiful” physique too… i say “beautiful” because i dont think BEAUTIFUL has the emphasis i desire… lmao!
I would tak a little from him, a little from corney, a little from dexter jackson… (J/K!!) and find your own style…I intend to use a peice of music that is catchy, flowing and gentle, probably not “pop” and maybe some classical even depending on quite the amount of fluid there ends up being in my routine.

It needs to suit your style, shape and “moves”, so something with a little “THUMP!” goes well with the little shake into final flex like dennis wolf (and zane) does.

JMObservations…

Joe[/quote]

I don’t know of anywhere that teaches the pose off hand. Like I said earlier tho, exhale all of your air out and then suck in without pulling any air in. The lower bf% and tinier waist you have the bett you will look.

Gerdy

That video lead me to the entire walkthrough from all the mandatories to creating a posing routine. Great stuff. Chicherillo sounds like a cool guy, too. This is a huge help and I’ll be using it to practice in the coming weeks. Thanks again, Gerdy!

[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
With the vacuum pose try exhaling all of your breath completely and then suck in (make sense? lol). It is still a pain in the a$$ tho. lol I saw a guy at the last show I went to watch and he had it nailed. He even did it during prejudging with his front lat and front double bi. He didn’t do it in the ab n thigh tho. I’ve found that you need a small waist with exceptional lat development from the front to pull it off. It looked awesome tho.

Good luck with that, that would be sweet if you get it nailed.

Ya I wouldn’t spend any money learning how to pose unless it was a pro giving me personal lessons.

Here is that vid by chich…

Gerdy[/quote]

Holy shit the vacuum is such a pain. Its such a pain to hold it. Usually by the time I do a front lat spread its gone. Mad respect for you guys.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
That video lead me to the entire walkthrough from all the mandatories to creating a posing routine. Great stuff. Chicherillo sounds like a cool guy, too. This is a huge help and I’ll be using it to practice in the coming weeks. Thanks again, Gerdy!

Dirty Gerdy wrote:
With the vacuum pose try exhaling all of your breath completely and then suck in (make sense? lol). It is still a pain in the a$$ tho. lol I saw a guy at the last show I went to watch and he had it nailed. He even did it during prejudging with his front lat and front double bi. He didn’t do it in the ab n thigh tho. I’ve found that you need a small waist with exceptional lat development from the front to pull it off. It looked awesome tho.

Good luck with that, that would be sweet if you get it nailed.

Ya I wouldn’t spend any money learning how to pose unless it was a pro giving me personal lessons.

Here is that vid by chich…

Gerdy

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lol no problem man. I know I’ll be hitting you up sometime in my future for some aas advice so we will call it a fair trade then. lol jk :stuck_out_tongue:

Gerdy

It really depends on your body type and such, post some pics. If your a monster, you can get away with lounder heavier music, but if your less flashy classic physique, rock and fan fare type music work really well. If you want help, PM me, I’d love to help you with it.

the more you do posing while vacuuming the better you get at it. i practiced doing it while i was sitting down at the comp and in between sets. Like any posing, the key is doing it again, and again, and again. You’ll get the vacuum down. for EDITING, i used ACID PRO to put together mine. Worked well enough. You can download the full edition for free off any torrenting site such as

www.torrent-finder.com

Just took a look at your pic btw, you’re a big guy so i would go with something either rock or in that general tempo and intensity. You have to be a damn good poser to do classical, think Zane, Paris, Ed C. etc. Most judges start to yawn during them because people just hit their mandatories and it doesn’t fit. But thats just my opinion,

Song I would suggest
George Thorogood & the Destroyers

  • Bad to the Bone
    Buckcherry
  • Next to you
    AC/DC
  • Thunderstruck
    This one is weird but, I saw an amazing routine done to
    Damien Marley
  • Road to Zion.
    very classy posing with interesting poses.