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Please Explain Fashion to Me...

I recently went out with a female friend and met her gay friend so they could help me pick out nice semi-dressy clothes.

However, while I accept it as true, who are these fashion police and how do they become schooled in the arts?

Also who makes the fashion laws? Are they passed down by divine fiat through an Italian designer, or is it a more natural process like markets or evolution?

Don’t let a gay people pick out your clothes. Girls, yes they will dress you up right usually. Gay people will want shit thats just too tight.

[quote]elano wrote:
Don’t let a gay people pick out your clothes. Girls, yes they will dress you up right usually. Gay people will want shit thats just too tight. [/quote]

Considering the epidemic of huge legs and jeans that mysteriously stop at a 30" waist, that’s going to be common nowadays though.

Wear shit that matches, don’t wear horizontal shit with vertical shit, don’t try too hard, don’t wear shit with stains or shit that smells bad (how bout them puns?)… works for me…
But I’m 16. Don’t take advice from me.

Wear things that fit properly. Avoid advertising the brand you’re wearing. That’ll get you pretty far. Eventually you get a feel for it but I still let my lady friend pick out most of my shit.

I’ll leave the obvious alone…

Suit - Navy/Grey/Tan (not black)
Shirt - Whatever you like but conservative
Shoes and belt of same colour
Tie is optional (but make it nice).

Done.

Otherwise its tshirt and shorts for anything else.

Ahh, shit. I can’t help myself.

Fashion is stupid. I don’t mind looking good but frankly I don’t like spending money either.

As a female, I don’t care what a guy is wearing as long as it is clean, somewhat wrinkle-free and appropriate for the occasion. My peeve is ratty-assed footwear. Most of my friends will agree - Get some decent shoes! Get dressed, look down at your feet. If they look a little worn to you - they are probably ratty.

Can you please quantify ‘somewhat wrinkle-free?’ I’ve worn some clothes I thought were somewhat wrinkle-free, but I’ve gotten offers to have my clothes ironed for me.

You either got it for you don’t.

No one really answered my questions…

[quote]Fiction wrote:
No one really answered my questions…[/quote]

Famous people decide what’s fashionable. They start trends, everyone else follows.

french designers will always be trend setters for high fashion; though the influence from asian and scandinavian designers is growing. but what is in and what is out will change drastically from season to season. there are very few rules left in fashion.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Fiction wrote:
No one really answered my questions…

Famous people decide what’s fashionable. They start trends, everyone else follows.[/quote]

What is fashionable is frequently the result of what is pushed by wholesale buyers, bought by retail sellers, and then sold to the gullible public. Sometimes Hollywood can have a hand in the process. Case in point: Hushpuppies.

Focus on style, not fashion, and you can avoid walking around in white shutter shades.

Fashion design seems to start with wild concepts, much like automotive concept cars and any other type of high end design. Once those prototypes are created, the designers will then take some of the ideas behind the prototypes and make more practical (subjectively speaking) designs for public consumption.

Getting the backing of the aforementioned celebrities and fashion magazines will obviously help push certain designs over others.

Don’t wear pants. Pants are for losers.

Real men walk around in their budgie smugglers.

[quote]elano wrote:
Don’t let a gay people pick out your clothes. Girls, yes they will dress you up right usually. Gay people will want shit thats just too tight. [/quote]

I sort of agree. Sort of.

I think there is a great misconception that men inherently lack taste and a sense of style. This is pure garbage.

This accusation comes as an offense against the fact that men’s tastes do not change ALONG with trends, as women’s tastes often do. Men’s taste in everything is pretty unchanging. Just look at how coveted the young male demographic is to marketers; they are just tougher to market to because they are tougher to convince. That’s my theory, anyway.

I have my own style. I dress for the occasion and don’t obsess about details. I am told I dress fine.

Male ‘fashion’ should always be understated, anyway, if you ask me. The only girl I will shop with and whose opinion I will ask, because I KNOW she knows my tastes, is my younger sister. Otherwise, I have an idea of what I want. If I don’t find it, I don’t buy anything else in its place. I think this is where men and women differ; women will go nuts that they walked into a store and didn’t find what they wanted, so they HAVE to buy something. Men - or at least, I - won’t do this…

If I really like something but it’s not 100% how I envisioned the design looking on me, I’ll get it tailored and change the buttons or something. That’s rare, but that’s instead of dropping loads of cash on ten different items to assuage my frustration of not finding the one piece I came looking for.

most fashion is dictated by what is seen on TV

pretty sad

[quote]wfifer wrote:
Wear things that fit properly. Avoid advertising the brand you’re wearing. That’ll get you pretty far. Eventually you get a feel for it but I still let my lady friend pick out most of my shit. [/quote]

Good points, proper fits are crucial. It’s hell to find a shirt that fits me properly in the shoulders, but when I do it’s amazing how much better I look, regardless of design or color.

Branding is something I try to stay away from(if just wearing for brand sake). I am usually a walking, talking billboard for various drum, guitar, and pro audio equipment however.

The best thing I can offer style advice wise is to find out what looks good on you and build a wardrobe around it. I’m good in earth tones, but can’t really pull off bright colors. I always catch shit from women because my closet is full of black, navy blue, and military green, but when I wear a red shirt they will often tell me how it’s “not my color”, yet encourage me to buy yellows, whites, and bright blues to “soften my look”. I just roll my eyes.

the fashion world is yeah pretty much dictated by celebs, designers who have cred in the “scene” and some rich and powerful ppl who have interest (money) involved in the industry.

But men are always easier to up keep than women. So long as you have a nice suit or two, some dress shirts, some dress pants that aren’t too tacky looking and not too old, you should be ok.

fitting is important. Your height, body type, and hairstyle can dictate a lot of what you should and should not wear. Not to mention how you match your clothes.

Tight fitting isn’t always bad so long as it looks good on you. A v-taper is always good for men, so u wear clothes that help create that. As well as slimming lines. If you are too thin, where something that helps you look bigger to acheive the V-taper. It’s all about acheviing that “golden ratio” of beauty proportions that the ancient greeks had calculated.

If you can afford it, Armani and Boss tend to make suits for more muscular types or get a tailor to make it. D&G, versace tend to be more slim fitting and younger men, but check out the styles, your tailor can help you make it for cheaper. (I’m under 30 so I usually like those varieties) In fact, the best looking suit i got isn’t any of my boss or designer suits, rather a tailor made one (which I got real cheap in HOng Kong), that was customed to be form fitting based on the Versace slim fitting styles. But to wear those you gotta be lean…so hit the gym.

For older ppl, check out the styles of Armani, Boss, and Canali and get something similar to that style. You don’t have to get designers but u can steal their styles to see what trends are good now.

[quote]analog_kid wrote:
wfifer wrote:
Wear things that fit properly. Avoid advertising the brand you’re wearing. That’ll get you pretty far. Eventually you get a feel for it but I still let my lady friend pick out most of my shit.

Good points, proper fits are crucial. It’s hell to find a shirt that fits me properly in the shoulders, but when I do it’s amazing how much better I look, regardless of design or color.

Branding is something I try to stay away from(if just wearing for brand sake). I am usually a walking, talking billboard for various drum, guitar, and pro audio equipment however.

The best thing I can offer style advice wise is to find out what looks good on you and build a wardrobe around it. I’m good in earth tones, but can’t really pull off bright colors. I always catch shit from women because my closet is full of black, navy blue, and military green, but when I wear a red shirt they will often tell me how it’s “not my color”, yet encourage me to buy yellows, whites, and bright blues to “soften my look”. I just roll my eyes.

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I love wearing black, navy blue, and military green. I haven’t gotten any comments on it at all. Just the way I like it.