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Please Enlighten Me on Steroids

Background:

Worked out in my teens and made good gains. Have worked out on and off. Never had a schedule, just always been the type of guy that could go in the gym and walk around and start growing. My sex drive has been insane my whole life so I am thinking I have high natural levels of testosterone. Or did have high levels. Never done steroids yet.

Flash Forward 20 years:

Age 38. Got tired of feeling run down last year and decided to start working out. Gained 35-40lbs in 6 months WITHOUT STEROIDS. Went from 150lbs-190lbs @5’10’’ no kidding. . .sure there is a bit of fat, and i was dieting before I started to eat and train again. . .but most of the weight gained is lean body mass. Bench increased from about 120lbs to about 230lbs. I know. . .pretty decent. . .and no workout program either. Arms 17’ pumped/vascular, toned midsection but no six pack. Honestly, I look better then guys half my age (not bragging). I think I have really good genetics.

Future:

So was considering steroids because I am pretty sure I would become a monster on them. It seems I am naturally predisposed to put on muscle and would love to see how big I could get. Also noticed last 5 years my erections are not what they used to be. . .granted I still jerk off about 1-2 times a day (can’t help it) but I used to be way more horny (if you can believe that). I never understood how men could ignore cameltoe because I was always so horny it made me go to the washroom to rub one out whenever I saw it. Now I am starting to feel a lot more normal with the sex drive and it is weird not being interested in sex at times because for my whole life I thought about it 24/7 365 days a year. Viagra works well enough to make my erections kick ass, and it makes me miss having sex with really hard spontaneous erections so I use it sparingly once in awhile (I am married and wife isn’t that interested in sex anyway, but I got a mistress. . .or two).

SO. . .the more I read about steroids and PCT and see cases of guys screwing up their hormones for good, the more I worry about messing with it. Thinking I’d rather have my semi hard pecker and jerk off and have sex with a bit of viagra then lose my libido entirely!

SO MY QUESTION IS. . .are you guys taking steroids fuing crazy or what?!!! Honestly?! How the fk can it possibly be worth it to mess with your manhood for some muscle and end up chemically castrated?! I get that guys want a confidence boost, but isn’t working out and seeing your body progress enough???

Please enlighten me. . .because I am reading about a ton of sexual problems from roids. . .seems at some point it will hit, even with a good PCT plan.

Stand back boys ill feed this troll, Yes we are fucking crazy and we all came together one day and said “I wanna castrate myself” but of course i didnt have the BALLS to use a knife. Thats when i discovered gear and its amazing ability to shut em down for good. How is it worth it you ask?, well i can dress up as the hulk for the next 20+ halloweens! and you get to be bald! If that is not enough to bring you to the dark side I dont know what to tell ya bromigo.

Call me a troll, but your response is as dumb as all the “broscientists” who are giving advice to guys who have chemically castrated themselves and are desperately trying to regain their wood and manhood with blood values that keep coming up “normal” in test after test and they have no clue what to do because their PCT was supposed to fix everything (the PCT meds that were purchased from the same black market idiots who sold them the steroids that were supposedly of “such and such” brand. . .you get the picture if you have half a brain. . .scary!).

Why anyone would do roids and then trust the dipshits on this forum to pull them out of a sexless depressive state I have no idea. This post should be the real sticky, not the one that says “how to do your first cycle”.

Suggestions I have read on here to “help” the woodless (and now bloated) males that can’t get it up:

“Get some tribulus bro and you’ll be banging the misses soon”
“Buy some X-brand from X-website. . .that will sort you out for good”
“Take 25mg of Clomid or Novalex for I dunno. . .3 weeks” etc. (Do you people realize how powerful these chemicals are in altering your body chemistry permanently)

Honestly, the good thing is you guys are going to be so F**ked up hormonally I’ll be banging your wives to give them a thrill. . .while you are busy trying to lose your bitch tits and bloated guts and trying to figure out why looking at naked chicks is no more fun then bowling with your buddy Norm.

I’d rather have my decent physique and aging boner (semi-effective but still alive as compared to dead).

I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever.

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]
Now in all seriousness its sorta luck of the draw like who was lucky enough to do their research from legitimate sources or those who went with “hey bro try this”

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
Call me a troll, but your response is as dumb as all the “broscientists” who are giving advice to guys who have chemically castrated themselves and are desperately trying to regain their wood and manhood with blood values that keep coming up “normal” in test after test and they have no clue what to do because their PCT was supposed to fix everything (the PCT meds that were purchased from the same black market idiots who sold them the steroids that were supposedly of “such and such” brand. . .you get the picture if you have half a brain. . .scary!).

Why anyone would do roids and then trust the dipshits on this forum to pull them out of a sexless depressive state I have no idea. This post should be the real sticky, not the one that says “how to do your first cycle”.

Suggestions I have read on here to “help” the woodless (and now bloated) males that can’t get it up:

“Get some tribulus bro and you’ll be banging the misses soon”
“Buy some X-brand from X-website. . .that will sort you out for good”
“Take 25mg of Clomid or Novalex for I dunno. . .3 weeks” etc. (Do you people realize how powerful these chemicals are in altering your body chemistry permanently)

Honestly, the good thing is you guys are going to be so F**ked up hormonally I’ll be banging your wives to give them a thrill. . .while you are busy trying to lose your bitch tits and bloated guts and trying to figure out why looking at naked chicks is no more fun then bowling with your buddy Norm.

I’d rather have my decent physique and aging boner (semi-effective but still alive as compared to dead).

[/quote]

I would like you to link where you have seen anyone give that kind of advice on this site.

I have defended my decision to use and will until the day I die from it. This whole entire ordeal called life is merely an experiment and I have taken that to the extreme many times. My purpose in life is not to bang other peoples wives, I am here to push my body to the limit and leave it to rot when it has expired. When that time comes it will not matter how many steroids you have done or the amount of wives you have banged you will still be a dead cunt.

You are mad, don’t know why. Chill out if you do not wanna do steroids thats fine it just means more for me. Enjoy your long boner filled life my friend and I hope you find peace in whatever has frustrated you so deeply.

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]
Now in all seriousness its sorta luck of the draw like who was lucky enough to do their research from legitimate sources or those who went with “hey bro try this”[/quote]

Really? Your response is as uneducated and uninformed as the last guy. . .I hear a balloon fizzling out and see your pecker deflating as you wrote that. . .your poor diminutive testes all wound up in a knot as large as I’ve seen on my daughters running shoes. . .tsk tsk. . .

[quote]MacSaintson wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
Call me a troll, but your response is as dumb as all the “broscientists” who are giving advice to guys who have chemically castrated themselves and are desperately trying to regain their wood and manhood with blood values that keep coming up “normal” in test after test and they have no clue what to do because their PCT was supposed to fix everything (the PCT meds that were purchased from the same black market idiots who sold them the steroids that were supposedly of “such and such” brand. . .you get the picture if you have half a brain. . .scary!).

Why anyone would do roids and then trust the dipshits on this forum to pull them out of a sexless depressive state I have no idea. This post should be the real sticky, not the one that says “how to do your first cycle”.

Suggestions I have read on here to “help” the woodless (and now bloated) males that can’t get it up:

“Get some tribulus bro and you’ll be banging the misses soon”
“Buy some X-brand from X-website. . .that will sort you out for good”
“Take 25mg of Clomid or Novalex for I dunno. . .3 weeks” etc. (Do you people realize how powerful these chemicals are in altering your body chemistry permanently)

Honestly, the good thing is you guys are going to be so F**ked up hormonally I’ll be banging your wives to give them a thrill. . .while you are busy trying to lose your bitch tits and bloated guts and trying to figure out why looking at naked chicks is no more fun then bowling with your buddy Norm.

I’d rather have my decent physique and aging boner (semi-effective but still alive as compared to dead).

[/quote]

I would like you to link where you have seen anyone give that kind of advice on this site.

I have defended my decision to use and will until the day I die from it. This whole entire ordeal called life is merely an experiment and I have taken that to the extreme many times. My purpose in life is not to bang other peoples wives, I am here to push my body to the limit and leave it to rot when it has expired. When that time comes it will not matter how many steroids you have done or the amount of wives you have banged you will still be a dead cunt.

You are mad, don’t know why. Chill out if you do not wanna do steroids thats fine it just means more for me. Enjoy your long boner filled life my friend and I hope you find peace in whatever has frustrated you so deeply.

[/quote]
x2 and i dont have a wife i just bowl with my buddy…

[quote]MacSaintson wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
Call me a troll, but your response is as dumb as all the “broscientists” who are giving advice to guys who have chemically castrated themselves and are desperately trying to regain their wood and manhood with blood values that keep coming up “normal” in test after test and they have no clue what to do because their PCT was supposed to fix everything (the PCT meds that were purchased from the same black market idiots who sold them the steroids that were supposedly of “such and such” brand. . .you get the picture if you have half a brain. . .scary!).

Why anyone would do roids and then trust the dipshits on this forum to pull them out of a sexless depressive state I have no idea. This post should be the real sticky, not the one that says “how to do your first cycle”.

Suggestions I have read on here to “help” the woodless (and now bloated) males that can’t get it up:

“Get some tribulus bro and you’ll be banging the misses soon”
“Buy some X-brand from X-website. . .that will sort you out for good”
“Take 25mg of Clomid or Novalex for I dunno. . .3 weeks” etc. (Do you people realize how powerful these chemicals are in altering your body chemistry permanently)

Honestly, the good thing is you guys are going to be so F**ked up hormonally I’ll be banging your wives to give them a thrill. . .while you are busy trying to lose your bitch tits and bloated guts and trying to figure out why looking at naked chicks is no more fun then bowling with your buddy Norm.

I’d rather have my decent physique and aging boner (semi-effective but still alive as compared to dead).

[/quote]

I would like you to link where you have seen anyone give that kind of advice on this site.

I have defended my decision to use and will until the day I die from it. This whole entire ordeal called life is merely an experiment and I have taken that to the extreme many times. My purpose in life is not to bang other peoples wives, I am here to push my body to the limit and leave it to rot when it has expired. When that time comes it will not matter how many steroids you have done or the amount of wives you have banged you will still be a dead cunt.

You are mad, don’t know why. Chill out if you do not wanna do steroids thats fine it just means more for me. Enjoy your long boner filled life my friend and I hope you find peace in whatever has frustrated you so deeply.

[/quote]

If your goal is not “to bang other woman’s wives” then we live on two different planets. . .but respect, someone has got to rack the weights in the gym. . .might as well be a muscle head.

. . .I was faithful for 10 years. . .hardest 10 years of my life and I amassed a VHS porno collection worth about $3K (before the days of Internet ready porn–now I am all good).

Honestly, I wish you the best also man. . .but I think that this whole steroid thing is just another form of addiction. . .and I don’t look at my body as an experiment. . .it has to last me a long time yet because i want to see my grandkids. . .so not a game I want to play after about 2 months of research and reading everything I can get my hands on.

Anyway. . .it’s just sad them promoting all these huge muscle men on the main page with atrophied balls and fucked up libidos. . .and don’t tell me it’s different. . .I’ve read enough to know that this shit causes problems unless you plan to be on it permanently. . .and then it’s like viagra. . .you still have an inferiority complex.

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]
Now in all seriousness its sorta luck of the draw like who was lucky enough to do their research from legitimate sources or those who went with “hey bro try this”[/quote]

Really? Your response is as uneducated and uninformed as the last guy. . .I hear a balloon fizzling out and see your pecker deflating as you wrote that. . .your poor diminutive testes all wound up in a knot as large as I’ve seen on my daughters running shoes. . .tsk tsk. . .[/quote]
Are you ok? did you get some bad news? You seem REALLY concerned with other mens dicks and balls.

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]
Now in all seriousness its sorta luck of the draw like who was lucky enough to do their research from legitimate sources or those who went with “hey bro try this”[/quote]

Really? Your response is as uneducated and uninformed as the last guy. . .I hear a balloon fizzling out and see your pecker deflating as you wrote that. . .your poor diminutive testes all wound up in a knot as large as I’ve seen on my daughters running shoes. . .tsk tsk. . .[/quote]
Are you ok? did you get some bad news? You seem REALLY concerned with other mens dicks and balls.[/quote]

Nope. . .just concerned with your wife’s dick and balls. . .when you told her to do steroids she just wanted some muscle tone and now look at her talking about football, drinking beer, and hanging out at Macdonald’s getting cheap protein fixes.

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]
Now in all seriousness its sorta luck of the draw like who was lucky enough to do their research from legitimate sources or those who went with “hey bro try this”[/quote]

Really? Your response is as uneducated and uninformed as the last guy. . .I hear a balloon fizzling out and see your pecker deflating as you wrote that. . .your poor diminutive testes all wound up in a knot as large as I’ve seen on my daughters running shoes. . .tsk tsk. . .[/quote]
Are you ok? did you get some bad news? You seem REALLY concerned with other mens dicks and balls.[/quote]

Nope. . .just concerned with your wife’s dick and balls. . .when you told her to do steroids she just wanted some muscle tone and now look at her talking about football, drinking beer, and hanging out at Macdonald’s getting cheap protein fixes.[/quote]
Now you are just projecting, whatever problems with penis you have been having im sorry to hear about it. Im sure things will be better for you and your wife, good day sir

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]
Now in all seriousness its sorta luck of the draw like who was lucky enough to do their research from legitimate sources or those who went with “hey bro try this”[/quote]

Really? Your response is as uneducated and uninformed as the last guy. . .I hear a balloon fizzling out and see your pecker deflating as you wrote that. . .your poor diminutive testes all wound up in a knot as large as I’ve seen on my daughters running shoes. . .tsk tsk. . .[/quote]
Are you ok? did you get some bad news? You seem REALLY concerned with other mens dicks and balls.[/quote]

Nope. . .just concerned with your wife’s dick and balls. . .when you told her to do steroids she just wanted some muscle tone and now look at her talking about football, drinking beer, and hanging out at Macdonald’s getting cheap protein fixes.[/quote]
Now you are just projecting, whatever problems with penis you have been having im sorry to hear about it. Im sure things will be better for you and your wife, good day sir[/quote]

Dude. . .no one matches me on a battle of wits :wink: Good for you to bow out.

Still would like a link to the information you quoted and said you got from this site.

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]

It’s not really luck of the draw. If you do the proper research and don’t go overboard they can be safe. I’m not saying there is no risk because there certainly is but if you approach it educated your risks are greatly reduced. Not every person is the same but if you read most of the horror stories the people doing the cycles did something with it

[quote]BUDs wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’ve cycled many times and everytime I come back great. Never had any issues what so ever. [/quote]

How old are you? Please elaborate on your average cycle and PCT as well as body weight etc. Are you saying it is luck of the draw to get issues and not be able to get back to where you started??[/quote]

It’s not really luck of the draw. If you do the proper research and don’t go overboard they can be safe. I’m not saying there is no risk because there certainly is but if you approach it educated your risks are greatly reduced. Not every person is the same but if you read most of the horror stories the people doing the cycles did something with it[/quote]

X2

[quote]MacSaintson wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
Call me a troll, but your response is as dumb as all the “broscientists” who are giving advice to guys who have chemically castrated themselves and are desperately trying to regain their wood and manhood with blood values that keep coming up “normal” in test after test and they have no clue what to do because their PCT was supposed to fix everything (the PCT meds that were purchased from the same black market idiots who sold them the steroids that were supposedly of “such and such” brand. . .you get the picture if you have half a brain. . .scary!).

Why anyone would do roids and then trust the dipshits on this forum to pull them out of a sexless depressive state I have no idea. This post should be the real sticky, not the one that says “how to do your first cycle”.

Suggestions I have read on here to “help” the woodless (and now bloated) males that can’t get it up:

“Get some tribulus bro and you’ll be banging the misses soon”
“Buy some X-brand from X-website. . .that will sort you out for good”
“Take 25mg of Clomid or Novalex for I dunno. . .3 weeks” etc. (Do you people realize how powerful these chemicals are in altering your body chemistry permanently)

Honestly, the good thing is you guys are going to be so F**ked up hormonally I’ll be banging your wives to give them a thrill. . .while you are busy trying to lose your bitch tits and bloated guts and trying to figure out why looking at naked chicks is no more fun then bowling with your buddy Norm.

I’d rather have my decent physique and aging boner (semi-effective but still alive as compared to dead).

[/quote]

I would like you to link where you have seen anyone give that kind of advice on this site.

I have defended my decision to use and will until the day I die from it. This whole entire ordeal called life is merely an experiment and I have taken that to the extreme many times. My purpose in life is not to bang other peoples wives, I am here to push my body to the limit and leave it to rot when it has expired. When that time comes it will not matter how many steroids you have done or the amount of wives you have banged you will still be a dead cunt.

You are mad, don’t know why. Chill out if you do not wanna do steroids thats fine it just means more for me. Enjoy your long boner filled life my friend and I hope you find peace in whatever has frustrated you so deeply.

[/quote]

Life is short in a blink you’re old and soon to be dead. i don’t want to look back on life and say damn I wish I did this or that. Point is I like being big and I love being strong and the benefits greatly out weight the risks and you know what maybe my hormones will get messed up and ill screw up my libido but hey so far it hasn’t happened and if it does… Hello TRT

Wow…just wow. How did I read so much of this? When done properly, and with the correct medical knowledge, and not to excess, there are about as many risks as bowling with your buddy norm. Proper diet, supplementation, and doses…along with legit gear are better for you than you think. Do you know what an anabolic steroid is? I’m guessing you don’t. And Don’t go confusing it with other forms of steroids such as birth control pills, or cholesterol.( yes, sterol is a suffix for steroid)

to put it into the most laymen terms possible: you have a Honda with VTEC, kinda quick right? Occasionally a girl will look. Not the fastest or prettiest car out there but it’s ok and it’ll get you where you need to go. Now, 2003 hits and the mitsubishi Evo hits the shores. Now you have the same VTEC (MiVEC actually but same premise) but now it has a near zero lag turbo, 4 doors, all wheel drive, and brakes that can stop a Mack truck! Still a lil 4 banger…but now EVERY girl looks (including your camel toe girls you love) and its much more fun to be seen in:) it’s the same original ‘Honda’ platform. But it is running faster, better in the corners, more power, more torque, way nicer to look at, and all that. It’s the same thing but on steroids! Ya dig? You don’t sound like a dummy by any means. But stop reading your ‘bro’ pages and start going in depth on medical journals and educate yourself. Then cast that stone friend.

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
Background:

Worked out in my teens and made good gains. Have worked out on and off. Never had a schedule, just always been the type of guy that could go in the gym and walk around and start growing. My sex drive has been insane my whole life so I am thinking I have high natural levels of testosterone. Or did have high levels. Never done steroids yet.

Flash Forward 20 years:

Age 38. Got tired of feeling run down last year and decided to start working out. Gained 35-40lbs in 6 months WITHOUT STEROIDS. Went from 150lbs-190lbs @5’10’’ no kidding. . .sure there is a bit of fat, and i was dieting before I started to eat and train again. . .but most of the weight gained is lean body mass. Bench increased from about 120lbs to about 230lbs. I know. . .pretty decent. . .and no workout program either. Arms 17’ pumped/vascular, toned midsection but no six pack. Honestly, I look better then guys half my age (not bragging). I think I have really good genetics.

Future:

So was considering steroids because I am pretty sure I would become a monster on them. It seems I am naturally predisposed to put on muscle and would love to see how big I could get. Also noticed last 5 years my erections are not what they used to be. . .granted I still jerk off about 1-2 times a day (can’t help it) but I used to be way more horny (if you can believe that). I never understood how men could ignore cameltoe because I was always so horny it made me go to the washroom to rub one out whenever I saw it. Now I am starting to feel a lot more normal with the sex drive and it is weird not being interested in sex at times because for my whole life I thought about it 24/7 365 days a year. Viagra works well enough to make my erections kick ass, and it makes me miss having sex with really hard spontaneous erections so I use it sparingly once in awhile (I am married and wife isn’t that interested in sex anyway, but I got a mistress. . .or two).

SO. . .the more I read about steroids and PCT and see cases of guys screwing up their hormones for good, the more I worry about messing with it. Thinking I’d rather have my semi hard pecker and jerk off and have sex with a bit of viagra then lose my libido entirely!

SO MY QUESTION IS. . .are you guys taking steroids fuing crazy or what?!!! Honestly?! How the fk can it possibly be worth it to mess with your manhood for some muscle and end up chemically castrated?! I get that guys want a confidence boost, but isn’t working out and seeing your body progress enough???

Please enlighten me. . .because I am reading about a ton of sexual problems from roids. . .seems at some point it will hit, even with a good PCT plan.[/quote]

U MAD BRAH ?

Your bitch isn’t interest in sex because she’s banging the personal trainer who is on gear and has raging hard ons all day long as compared to your pathetic “semi-boner, good enough to jerk off in a stall at work after seeing cameltoe”

fucking loser