Playstation 4 Announced

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

What do you mean no Killzone gameplay? There’s over 7 minutes of gameplay. Unless im misunderstanding.

And it does look awesome, the intro sequence with the aerial view over the city is far more detailed and dynamic than anything the PS3 would ever be capable of. Lets not forget that these videos will look worse being streamed on your PC than when you actually can put it in your PS4 and blow it up onto your 60"

Another thing of note is that these are presumably launch titles we are looking at. 3 years after PS4 is released, games will look twice as good. Look at Uncharted 1 vs Uncharted 3. Thats a massive difference.

The Watch Dog demo looks great, it could probably look better but it was originally out for the current console generation. And the lighting and water effects we saw in that demo is incredible, definitely next-gen only stuff.

If that demo for Deep Down truly is real-time gameplay as implied, and the demo for Unreal Engine 4 as well, then THATS the kind of stuff we can anticipate seeing, and if that doesnt look incredible to you than nothing is going to please.

Just wait til Naughty Dog releases a new Uncharted for PS4. It will be mind-blowing.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:
IMO the PS4 is catching up to the Xbox 360 with this new console. Xbox’s online already has at least half of these features the PS4 will be getting and I believe the Xbox is more user friendly. The PSN is trash compared to Xbox Live and before anyone says but it’s free, $60 a year for Xbox Live is nothing. If you cant afford that you shouldn’t be buying video games in the first place. Whatever Microsoft comes out with for their next console, I believe it will be far superior than the PS4 in many ways. That is just me though. I have had both a PS3 and Xbox 360, I actually sold my PS3 once and then bought another one for Socom 4, which turned out to be complete shit. Xbox 360 is my favorite. I am really curious about the new Xbox.[/quote]
I’ve never owned an Xbox so I can’t really compare. I originally got a PS3 because of the blu ray player and because every single one of my friends had one. I’m more of a casual gamer and I will get what my other friends have so that way we can interact and play games online together.

This is just my experience on who I’ve talked to so I could be wrong, but it seems to me more adults have a PS3 while more younger people have an Xbox360.[/quote]

From what I have heard and read the main focus of the PS4 is social gaming. With the PS3 there was only in game chat and no party chat. If you wanted to do a chat with friends only you had to be at the dashboard or whatever the PS3 beginning screen is. I believe that is one reason why younger people played on Xbox 360, you could do a party chat in game with whoever you wanted with up to 8 people. PS4 is just now getting this, and that is one reason why I say it is behind the Xbox. But if you have never had a 360 you wouldn’t know any different. [/quote]

I’m not a gamer but my kids have a PS3. All the kids in their school from 7th grade up have laptops so they just skype for party chat. I know this isn’t the same but it seems to work. They both have their Pros and Cons. Does the Xbox play bluray?

As far as paying for chat, my kids don’t have much money and I sure as hell won’t be paying for it.

I heard that the new Xbox will not allow you to play a game on more than one console. Ever. Seems like a misstep to me.
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The thing about not being able to play used games is just a rumor and it really has no merit. They have been saying this for a while now. I read an article and in it the CEO of Gamestop said that there is no way they would this. It stated that Gamestop controls 60% to 70% of first week game sales.

Here is the link: PS4 vs. Xbox One: Which Console Is Better for You? | Digital Trends

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[quote]js252 wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:
IMO the PS4 is catching up to the Xbox 360 with this new console. Xbox’s online already has at least half of these features the PS4 will be getting and I believe the Xbox is more user friendly. The PSN is trash compared to Xbox Live and before anyone says but it’s free, $60 a year for Xbox Live is nothing. If you cant afford that you shouldn’t be buying video games in the first place. Whatever Microsoft comes out with for their next console, I believe it will be far superior than the PS4 in many ways. That is just me though. I have had both a PS3 and Xbox 360, I actually sold my PS3 once and then bought another one for Socom 4, which turned out to be complete shit. Xbox 360 is my favorite. I am really curious about the new Xbox.[/quote]
I’ve never owned an Xbox so I can’t really compare. I originally got a PS3 because of the blu ray player and because every single one of my friends had one. I’m more of a casual gamer and I will get what my other friends have so that way we can interact and play games online together.

This is just my experience on who I’ve talked to so I could be wrong, but it seems to me more adults have a PS3 while more younger people have an Xbox360.[/quote]

From what I have heard and read the main focus of the PS4 is social gaming. With the PS3 there was only in game chat and no party chat. If you wanted to do a chat with friends only you had to be at the dashboard or whatever the PS3 beginning screen is. I believe that is one reason why younger people played on Xbox 360, you could do a party chat in game with whoever you wanted with up to 8 people. PS4 is just now getting this, and that is one reason why I say it is behind the Xbox. But if you have never had a 360 you wouldn’t know any different. [/quote]

Have you been lucky enough to only have one 360 though? all my buds that went with 360’s have all had to buy a minimum of 3 different 360’s since they came out all while i had been rocking my org fat 60 GB ps3. seems like they had to replace alot of controllers and headsets also come to think about it.

To the OP or whoever else about the ps4 are they still planning on the online gaming being free or finally start charging. kept hearing rumors they were going to start charging up until they had that network hack/crash a couple years ago.[/quote]

No, I went through I think 2 or 3 360’s. And each time it was fixed for free. Either I sent it to Xbox or got a new one from Gamestop for free. So it hasn’t been that much of a bother for me. I know they had a ton of issues when they first came out like red ring but I am still going to be buying the new Xbox as soon as possible. And as Kahuna already stated they are going to start charging which could be a positive and a negative.

Edit: I saw someone talking about MGS and the new one MGS Rising is going to be available on Xbox so there goes one of PS exclusives. That game looks absolutely amazing though.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/geek_st_nia_pleaze_9[/quote]

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

What do you mean no Killzone gameplay? There’s over 7 minutes of gameplay. Unless im misunderstanding.

And it does look awesome, the intro sequence with the aerial view over the city is far more detailed and dynamic than anything the PS3 would ever be capable of. Lets not forget that these videos will look worse being streamed on your PC than when you actually can put it in your PS4 and blow it up onto your 60"

Another thing of note is that these are presumably launch titles we are looking at. 3 years after PS4 is released, games will look twice as good. Look at Uncharted 1 vs Uncharted 3. Thats a massive difference.

The Watch Dog demo looks great, it could probably look better but it was originally out for the current console generation. And the lighting and water effects we saw in that demo is incredible, definitely next-gen only stuff.

If that demo for Deep Down truly is real-time gameplay as implied, and the demo for Unreal Engine 4 as well, then THATS the kind of stuff we can anticipate seeing, and if that doesnt look incredible to you than nothing is going to please.

Just wait til Naughty Dog releases a new Uncharted for PS4. It will be mind-blowing. [/quote]

I must have just missed the boat on the gameplay uploads on my search, my apologies, you’re correct, the footage is definitely there.

Huge fan of the rifle textures and the fire looks absolutely incredible, I could see an abundance of levels mapped around explosive aftermaths utilizing the fire’s mechanics.

I love the look of Watch Dogs, huge fan of the gameplay as well, from an entertainment perspective it looks right up my alley. Enough stealth and blending in with the environment but great action as well, and by no means straightforward action either, looks like tactics will play a huge role in evading police and other hostile forces effectively.

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[quote]stefan128 wrote:

Edit: I saw someone talking about MGS and the new one MGS Rising is going to be available on Xbox so there goes one of PS exclusives. That game looks absolutely amazing though.[/quote]

Maybe so, and I’m happy for that, I like there to be a choice between where I can put my time and not be restrained by having it only available in one place, probably predominantly why I bought a PS3 instead of an Xbox 360, and I owned all the previous Sony models, so you know, continuity.

I’ve had a taste of the gameplay from MG Rising, for a spin-off title that has itself devoted to action and incredibly cool fight scenes, it still retains a lot of it’s Stealth elements, which was surprising to me but welcomed.

Especially later on in the game if you can’t perform a stealth kill on some of the patrolling enemies and they rush you in combat simultaneously, you will have a bad time. I appreciate the return of the infamous cardboard box. And some of the novelty costumes, there’s one Mexican-themed one with a sombrero and a poncho, if you wear it and use the box the sombrero stays balanced on top of the box, it’s amusing and I love Kojima for keeping those kinds of things in there.

Ground Zeroes is what I’m waiting for, main selling point is it being the first Open World Metal Gear title, it’s safe to say my britches have been shit.

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[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

Killzone Shadow Fall Announce Trailer (PS4) - YouTube [/quote]

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

I think that’s my main calling to a PlayStation as opposed to an Xbox, for whatever reason I tend to prefer the exclusives more. Uncharted, Killzone and to a great extent the Metal Gear series. I’m a devout fan of the Metal Gear games, I love stealth games.

I get that there’s not much of an appeal because of how difficult they can get sometimes, because the timing has to be impeccable and strategy plays a huge role, especially if it’s played on an appreciable difficulty level, action-centric games tend to take much more of a forefront because of the simplicity and don’t play so much on patience.

Had Metal Gear Solid and the like been readily available on the Xbox, I might have branched out to see all the fuss, but my budget is limited and I can’t bear to miss out on the franchise.[/quote]

Agree, PS exclusives are much beter imo. I’ve never been big on Halo for instances. Now Nintendo on the other hand. They have some great exclusives. I kind of hope the WiiU bombs and Nintendo becomes a third party developer for both Xbox and Playstation.

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Just saw the gameplay trailer. Looks sick as ever!

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[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

Edit: I saw someone talking about MGS and the new one MGS Rising is going to be available on Xbox so there goes one of PS exclusives. That game looks absolutely amazing though.[/quote]

Maybe so, and I’m happy for that, I like there to be a choice between where I can put my time and not be restrained by having it only available in one place, probably predominantly why I bought a PS3 instead of an Xbox 360, and I owned all the previous Sony models, so you know, continuity.

I’ve had a taste of the gameplay from MG Rising, for a spin-off title that has itself devoted to action and incredibly cool fight scenes, it still retains a lot of it’s Stealth elements, which was surprising to me but welcomed.

Especially later on in the game if you can’t perform a stealth kill on some of the patrolling enemies and they rush you in combat simultaneously, you will have a bad time. I appreciate the return of the infamous cardboard box. And some of the novelty costumes, there’s one Mexican-themed one with a sombrero and a poncho, if you wear it and use the box the sombrero stays balanced on top of the box, it’s amusing and I love Kojima for keeping those kinds of things in there.

Ground Zeroes is what I’m waiting for, main selling point is it being the first Open World Metal Gear title, it’s safe to say my britches have been shit.
[/quote]

Oops, got the titles mixed up. Haha, I meant Ground Zeroes. Rising with Raiden doesn’t reallty catch my attention.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/geek_st_nia_pleaze_9[/quote]

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

Killzone Shadow Fall Announce Trailer (PS4) - YouTube [/quote]

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

I think that’s my main calling to a PlayStation as opposed to an Xbox, for whatever reason I tend to prefer the exclusives more. Uncharted, Killzone and to a great extent the Metal Gear series. I’m a devout fan of the Metal Gear games, I love stealth games.

I get that there’s not much of an appeal because of how difficult they can get sometimes, because the timing has to be impeccable and strategy plays a huge role, especially if it’s played on an appreciable difficulty level, action-centric games tend to take much more of a forefront because of the simplicity and don’t play so much on patience.

Had Metal Gear Solid and the like been readily available on the Xbox, I might have branched out to see all the fuss, but my budget is limited and I can’t bear to miss out on the franchise.[/quote]

Agree, PS exclusives are much beter imo. I’ve never been big on Halo for instances. Now Nintendo on the other hand. They have some great exclusives. I kind of hope the WiiU bombs and Nintendo becomes a third party developer for both Xbox and Playstation. [/quote]

This.

I have nothing against Xbox or microsoft, (other than the fact that i had 3 xbox’s break on me) but the bottom line is there was literally 1 Xbox exclusive that i missed after i stopped getting new ones. And that was Fable 2.

Every single other game for Xbox 360 that i had a desire to play was also available for PS3 or PC. However i loved PS3 exclusives.

MGS4, The Uncharted Series (especially 2 and 3) Killzone 2 and 3, Demon’s Souls, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5, the Resistance series, and soon the Last of Us…these are some of the greatest games/series of all time, and all were exclusive. Most will still be.

Didnt hurt that it came with built in wifi, built in blu ray player and free online.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

Killzone Shadow Fall Announce Trailer (PS4) - YouTube [/quote]

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

I think that’s my main calling to a PlayStation as opposed to an Xbox, for whatever reason I tend to prefer the exclusives more. Uncharted, Killzone and to a great extent the Metal Gear series. I’m a devout fan of the Metal Gear games, I love stealth games.

I get that there’s not much of an appeal because of how difficult they can get sometimes, because the timing has to be impeccable and strategy plays a huge role, especially if it’s played on an appreciable difficulty level, action-centric games tend to take much more of a forefront because of the simplicity and don’t play so much on patience.

Had Metal Gear Solid and the like been readily available on the Xbox, I might have branched out to see all the fuss, but my budget is limited and I can’t bear to miss out on the franchise.[/quote]

Agree, PS exclusives are much beter imo. I’ve never been big on Halo for instances. Now Nintendo on the other hand. They have some great exclusives. I kind of hope the WiiU bombs and Nintendo becomes a third party developer for both Xbox and Playstation. [/quote]

This.

I have nothing against Xbox or microsoft, (other than the fact that i had 3 xbox’s break on me) but the bottom line is there was literally 1 Xbox exclusive that i missed after i stopped getting new ones. And that was Fable 2.

Every single other game for Xbox 360 that i had a desire to play was also available for PS3 or PC. However i loved PS3 exclusives.

MGS4, The Uncharted Series (especially 2 and 3) Killzone 2 and 3, Demon’s Souls, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5, the Resistance series, and soon the Last of Us…these are some of the greatest games/series of all time, and all were exclusive. Most will still be.

Didnt hurt that it came with built in wifi, built in blu ray player and free online. [/quote]

Looking forward to The Last Of Us, I like post-apocalyptic style games with sparse resources and constantly changing power-play. I Am Alive was fun while it lasted, but I hope The Last Of Us can expand more on the idea and bring a new fresh perspective to the situation.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

Killzone Shadow Fall Announce Trailer (PS4) - YouTube [/quote]

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

I think that’s my main calling to a PlayStation as opposed to an Xbox, for whatever reason I tend to prefer the exclusives more. Uncharted, Killzone and to a great extent the Metal Gear series. I’m a devout fan of the Metal Gear games, I love stealth games.

I get that there’s not much of an appeal because of how difficult they can get sometimes, because the timing has to be impeccable and strategy plays a huge role, especially if it’s played on an appreciable difficulty level, action-centric games tend to take much more of a forefront because of the simplicity and don’t play so much on patience.

Had Metal Gear Solid and the like been readily available on the Xbox, I might have branched out to see all the fuss, but my budget is limited and I can’t bear to miss out on the franchise.[/quote]

Agree, PS exclusives are much beter imo. I’ve never been big on Halo for instances. Now Nintendo on the other hand. They have some great exclusives. I kind of hope the WiiU bombs and Nintendo becomes a third party developer for both Xbox and Playstation. [/quote]

This.

I have nothing against Xbox or microsoft, (other than the fact that i had 3 xbox’s break on me) but the bottom line is there was literally 1 Xbox exclusive that i missed after i stopped getting new ones. And that was Fable 2.

Every single other game for Xbox 360 that i had a desire to play was also available for PS3 or PC. However i loved PS3 exclusives.

MGS4, The Uncharted Series (especially 2 and 3) Killzone 2 and 3, Demon’s Souls, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5, the Resistance series, and soon the Last of Us…these are some of the greatest games/series of all time, and all were exclusive. Most will still be.

Didnt hurt that it came with built in wifi, built in blu ray player and free online. [/quote]
Agreed

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[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also video game discussions are usually in the Geek S**t threads.

Ah my apologies, I never realised, I suppose I should post about individual titles there in future.

No Killzone gameplay as of yet, just theatrics. However, it does look really, really good. Some people are saying the textures and over all design look like PS3 but with a little added polish and shine. But to me, looking at the character models, it looks like character design has come a long way from what it used to be, even in the last Killzone title. The skin and sweat reflection looks really good on the open faced soldiers and the movement mechanics are fluid and impressive. Here’s a video that shows it well for reference.

Killzone Shadow Fall Announce Trailer (PS4) - YouTube [/quote]

I’m a huge fan of the Killzone games. Damn, I was gonna get the new Xbox, but now I donno. [/quote]

I think that’s my main calling to a PlayStation as opposed to an Xbox, for whatever reason I tend to prefer the exclusives more. Uncharted, Killzone and to a great extent the Metal Gear series. I’m a devout fan of the Metal Gear games, I love stealth games.

I get that there’s not much of an appeal because of how difficult they can get sometimes, because the timing has to be impeccable and strategy plays a huge role, especially if it’s played on an appreciable difficulty level, action-centric games tend to take much more of a forefront because of the simplicity and don’t play so much on patience.

Had Metal Gear Solid and the like been readily available on the Xbox, I might have branched out to see all the fuss, but my budget is limited and I can’t bear to miss out on the franchise.[/quote]

Agree, PS exclusives are much beter imo. I’ve never been big on Halo for instances. Now Nintendo on the other hand. They have some great exclusives. I kind of hope the WiiU bombs and Nintendo becomes a third party developer for both Xbox and Playstation. [/quote]

This.

I have nothing against Xbox or microsoft, (other than the fact that i had 3 xbox’s break on me) but the bottom line is there was literally 1 Xbox exclusive that i missed after i stopped getting new ones. And that was Fable 2.

Every single other game for Xbox 360 that i had a desire to play was also available for PS3 or PC. However i loved PS3 exclusives.

MGS4, The Uncharted Series (especially 2 and 3) Killzone 2 and 3, Demon’s Souls, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5, the Resistance series, and soon the Last of Us…these are some of the greatest games/series of all time, and all were exclusive. Most will still be.

Didnt hurt that it came with built in wifi, built in blu ray player and free online. [/quote]

Looking forward to The Last Of Us, I like post-apocalyptic style games with sparse resources and constantly changing power-play. I Am Alive was fun while it lasted, but I hope The Last Of Us can expand more on the idea and bring a new fresh perspective to the situation.[/quote]

Yeah, now that Crysis 3 has released, The Last of Us is likely going to be the last big game (and certainly last PS3 exclusive) i really look forward to.

But im OK with that, because just beyond the horizon i now have PS4 to look forward to.

I really have a strong feeling that the PS4 will deliver in a big way, especially if the mid 400’s to mid 500’s price points are validated. Unless Xbox has something truly groundbreaking to reveal, PS4 should be number one for this generation. Wii U certainly isnt gonna hurt it too much.

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I was once big on consoles, but after the buzz kill I got from PS2 and PS3 as well as all the XBOX faults (pricing on all three and hardware issues the PS2 and XBOX) it’s swayed me back to PC gaming.

I’m betting this is going to retail for a stupid amount here in Australia … games are probably going to range from $80 - $130 again for a few months.

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[quote]Teledin wrote:
I was once big on consoles, but after the buzz kill I got from PS2 and PS3 as well as all the XBOX faults (pricing on all three and hardware issues the PS2 and XBOX) it’s swayed me back to PC gaming.

I’m betting this is going to retail for a stupid amount here in Australia … games are probably going to range from $80 - $130 again for a few months.[/quote]

So you really only liked consoles back in the PSX, N64 days?

Why is it gonna be so expensive in a land down unda?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I would wait a year to work out bugs[/quote]

This.

I will hold final judgement until after E3, but I was not impressed with what I saw as far as games. I’m only really interested in the new inFamous game right now, even then, without Cole and Zeke who knows if it will have the same charm as the 1st 2 games.

It usually takes a year+ for the really good stuff to come out after a console launches anyway.

Add in current generation hardware failure rates for first run units and I have a hard time wanting in on this right away.

I don’t see myself getting one, unless The Phantom Pain aka Metal Gear Solid 5 is an exclusive launch title, then all bets are off.

I am still excited though and will be following along closely. As long as Sony keeps online play free (with the optional PS+ service) and stays away from blocking used games, count me in at some point.

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Metal Gear ground zero news… Kojima says MGS: Ground Zeroes may be too 'risky' to release - GameSpot

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
Metal Gear ground zero news… Kojima says MGS: Ground Zeroes may be too 'risky' to release - GameSpot

I love everything about that article. I’d be so glad if Kojima did intensify the themes behind the main story, even to the point where it would make some people uncomfortable. For what the game is and the history of it’s franchise, it deserves to have it’s message loud and clear at the forefront.

Emotional attachment to the characters is part of the reason I get so invested in the games. Jack’s back story was great, I’d love to see more of a development between Big Boss and Zero, the hate they foster for each other leading up to Les Enfants Terribles is one of the most under-developed but over-stated aspects of the Metal Gear universe as a whole.

It looks like Kojima’s planning to do that here, and take Big Boss farther than he ever has before, I welcome him not selling out and keeping true to the dark and violent history the games set themselves in.

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Now, for all purposes I am a big PC gamer, anything a console can do a PC would shit on its parade all day but what I do not like hearing/seeing is people in the industry or hardcore fanboys screaming about how “amazing” these next Gen consoles will be.

I listened to the radio the other night with the presenter going on about the PS4. “the games wil be AAAMAAAZING!, they’ll be much bigger with huge budgets and better quality gaming”.

Then I see on websites the same thing. Hype around that vigilante game included.

Why are people falling for this a third time round?

People are saying titles such as COD will be so much more awesome, Bf4 as well but they fail to see the true picture here. Games will not get better on consoles, they’ll just get prettier.

Now you may be extremely biased for consoles and say I talk a lot of crap but if you step back in time to when consoles were the Ps1 and N64, the likes of Golden Eye and Perfect Dark were in territory that many new games dont even touch on.

When I first played a game designed solely for the PC I was amazed by the freedom and detail put in. I never went back to consoles after this.

Now I hear the PS4 architecture is going to be based around the PC because it is easier to code for. WHAT?

I am pretty sure whatever game, be it Halo, Gears of War or another successful title, the numbers that would consistently play the game online with a PC would dwarf that of the console over time.

Played Bf3 on the PC after the console version? Huge difference.

Games will not get better on consoles, they will stay the same. As long as EA is around, the console market will be the same old, same old.

The only hope in gaming should come from Steambox. That console will actually circumvent EA entirely with Steam. All the advantages of the PC and console, none of its downfalls.

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Now, for all purposes I am a big PC gamer, anything a console can do a PC would shit on its parade all day but what I do not like hearing/seeing is people in the industry or hardcore fanboys screaming about how “amazing” these next Gen consoles will be.

I listened to the radio the other night with the presenter going on about the PS4. “the games wil be AAAMAAAZING!, they’ll be much bigger with huge budgets and better quality gaming”.

Then I see on websites the same thing. Hype around that vigilante game included.

Why are people falling for this a third time round?

People are saying titles such as COD will be so much more awesome, Bf4 as well but they fail to see the true picture here. Games will not get better on consoles, they’ll just get prettier.

Now you may be extremely biased for consoles and say I talk a lot of crap but if you step back in time to when consoles were the Ps1 and N64, the likes of Golden Eye and Perfect Dark were in territory that many new games dont even touch on.

When I first played a game designed solely for the PC I was amazed by the freedom and detail put in. I never went back to consoles after this.

Now I hear the PS4 architecture is going to be based around the PC because it is easier to code for. WHAT?

I am pretty sure whatever game, be it Halo, Gears of War or another successful title, the numbers that would consistently play the game online with a PC would dwarf that of the console over time.

Played Bf3 on the PC after the console version? Huge difference.

Games will not get better on consoles, they will stay the same. As long as EA is around, the console market will be the same old, same old.

The only hope in gaming should come from Steambox. That console will actually circumvent EA entirely with Steam. All the advantages of the PC and console, none of its downfalls.[/quote]
The Cell processor was almost impossible to code for. That’s why PS2 games don’t work on PS3 and PS3 games won’t work on PS4.

Of course PCs are better, but who would be willing to pay 1200 dollars for a console? Cheap hardware which you then optimize the shit out of is the solution.

The GPU should be equivalent to a 6970 or so which is still a good card capable of good graphics in 1920x1080. That’s enough for a few years.

Just look at how laughably weak the PS3 and 360 are and how “good” games still look on them.

The best part is PC games ported from consoles will look a lot better. And eventually be able to use more cores than today. And it will be a lot easier to release multi-platform titles.

8 gigs of DDR5 is no joke either.

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Now, for all purposes I am a big PC gamer, anything a console can do a PC would shit on its parade all day but what I do not like hearing/seeing is people in the industry or hardcore fanboys screaming about how “amazing” these next Gen consoles will be.

I listened to the radio the other night with the presenter going on about the PS4. “the games wil be AAAMAAAZING!, they’ll be much bigger with huge budgets and better quality gaming”.

Then I see on websites the same thing. Hype around that vigilante game included.

Why are people falling for this a third time round?

People are saying titles such as COD will be so much more awesome, Bf4 as well but they fail to see the true picture here. Games will not get better on consoles, they’ll just get prettier.

Now you may be extremely biased for consoles and say I talk a lot of crap but if you step back in time to when consoles were the Ps1 and N64, the likes of Golden Eye and Perfect Dark were in territory that many new games dont even touch on.

When I first played a game designed solely for the PC I was amazed by the freedom and detail put in. I never went back to consoles after this.

Now I hear the PS4 architecture is going to be based around the PC because it is easier to code for. WHAT?

I am pretty sure whatever game, be it Halo, Gears of War or another successful title, the numbers that would consistently play the game online with a PC would dwarf that of the console over time.

Played Bf3 on the PC after the console version? Huge difference.

Games will not get better on consoles, they will stay the same. As long as EA is around, the console market will be the same old, same old.

The only hope in gaming should come from Steambox. That console will actually circumvent EA entirely with Steam. All the advantages of the PC and console, none of its downfalls.[/quote]

I love sitting on my couch, playing my PS3, on my 50 plasma.

I dont like sitting at a computer desk chair, looking at a small screen (relative to 50 in plasma) and try to play games.

Some people like Steak and some like Hamburgers, why do you feel the need to make this point in this thread?