[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I have no clue as to which forum to post this question.
We do need a general fitness forum and a recipe forum, but to my question.
If you can’t overtrain, why will progress stall? Thibs mentioned how he doesn’t like to attack a diet program all out, the way Dan John suggests, as this leaves no way room to increase load or effort.
But if you can’t overtrain, why can’t you just kill it every time, why can’t you just workout 4-hours a day?
Same thing with diet. Anorexics lose weight, folks with no food lose weight, why will fat people who reduce calories not lose weight? Yes I get that there is a massive loss of muscle. BUT, do you get my question?
I get that I am not understanding, which is why I hope someone can clarify this simply for me.
Progress stalls because the body adapts to the demands you make on it. So if you want to continue to make progress you must make progressively more and more demands on the body.
When on a diet, your body adjusts to the lowered caloric intake by not burning as many calories as it normally would. It resets your BMR to your new level of eating. So if you go on a crash diet, your body will adjust to the severely lowered caloric intake and you will have no room to lower calories any further.
Anorexics lose weight like gangbusters because they eat nearly nothing for months at a time. Your brain and organs require a certain amount of energy to survive, so your body will eat all the muscle and fat off of you to keep those things functioning.
EDIT: So Thibs is right in that if a person starts out doing 30 hours of exercise a week and drops their cals to 1200 then when their progress stalls they won’t have much room to increase exercise or decrease cals.
But Dan John is also right in that most people will reach their goal before they stall unless their goal is to step on a stage in a banana hammock or a ridiculously overpriced bikini.[/quote]
Thanks Steel Nation
So if I am understanding correctly, what happens is people that start out going at max-effort (really for them) probably burn out in a short time and probably not enough time for a payout of their efforts. They aren’t overtrained, they are just underfed and not enough sleep, so they are more fatigued, than overtrained.
Regarding the calorie thing, people who starve do so on a longer basis than people who are stuck on a weightloss plateu due to low calories. And sure, you can lose weight but you would lose muscle.
So…the body adapts to intense effort and that isn’t over-training?