Planning First Cycle, Not for Size

So I’m not a bodybuilder!!
I’m about to take on my 1st cycle of steroids ever, I’ve been doing a fair bit of research of the last few weeks and this is the cycle I’ve put together, looking for the opinions of experienced users!!
Keep in mind I’m not trying to gain size here!!
My sport requires me to have the strength of a strongman, power lifter and oly lifter! The speed of a sprinter! And the endurance of a triathlete!!

Obviously my training program and eating habits have a lot to do with it but they are all taken care of!

Your thoughts?

(for crossfit athletes)
14 WEEK STEROID CYCLE

  • 2WEEK BREAK
  • 4WEEK CLOMID CYCLE
    [TOTAL 20weeks]

â?¢Wk1-4: 2x12.5mg Dbol tabs
(per day 7am,4pm)
[28full tabs of 50mg total]

â?¢WK1-14: 2x50mg test enanthate (per week, wed pm, sun am)
[1400mg total]

â?¢WK1-14: 1x200mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate
(per week sat am)
[2400mg total]

â?¢WK3-14: 1x0.25mg arimidex tab
(on non test days, lunch)
[14full tabs of 1mg]

â?¢WK15-16: break

W17: 1x150mg clomid (perday)
WK18-20: 1x50mg (perday)

â?¢30DAY ISAGENIX LIVER CLEANSE/DETOX

12 WEEKS REST TILL NEXT CYCLE (from week 20)

"Keep in mind I’m not trying to gain size here!!
My sport requires me to have the strength of a strongman, power lifter and oly lifter! The speed of a sprinter! And the endurance of a triathlete!! "

does your sport require you to add exclamation marks to everything!

Awesome advice bro!! Cheers!!!

Go do your research. 50mg 2x weekly isn’t going to yield anything your looking for. Check what the AAS are good for before you pick which one to run. EQ will increase appetite (mixed opinions between the user), dbol will increase fluid retention. All in all if you go ahead you will end up with little gains from the test, extra water weight from the dbol and you will want to eat more defeating the purpose of not wanting to bulk up.

Jekyll.

So are you saying up the test and drop the Dbol??

I train 3-5x per day and eat good foods, won’t that help with the water retention along with the arimidex ?

I am expecting a little water retention anyway it obviously comes hand in hand with using!! It’s a low test hit because I’m only try to get just above normal testosterone levels.

100mg of test will not do anything but effectively shut you down. I don’t believe you have even attempted to try researching yet. Be mad and butt hurt if you want but it appears you have just thrown in some random AAS with piss poor doses. I wont spoon feed you here either go research.

Fair enough, what’s your opinion on doses, you seem to know a great deal lolz

Lol is that supposed to be a shot at me? I know quite a bit alot more than your self it would appear any way.

[quote]HEART of a LION wrote:
Fair enough, what’s your opinion on doses, you seem to know a great deal lolz[/quote]

Why don’t you try reading, you know… Anything about AAS, and you’ll realize just how stupid of a cycle that is. That small of a test dose isn’t going to just get you minimal gains so you can stay in your super effective cheetah shape, as if having more muscle wouldn’t make you more explosive for some reason. Wait, I forgot the !!!.

Seriously, go read.

I think you would have gotten better responses if you hadn’t phrased your original post the way you did. You honestly come across as either the most sarcastic asshole in the world, or someone who knows jack shit about what they’re doing. Hard to get your foot in the door when this is the image you project.

As far as dosing goes, it’s obvious that your test dose is low. As Reed said, the Test isn’t going to do what you think it’s going to do. You don’t seem to be considering the fact that you’ll be shut down. If you really wanted to get your test ‘just above normal’, then why take AAS in the first place? This can be accomplished with test boosters. The reason people use AAS is because achieving Test levels just above normal is not particularly effective for their goals. Just something to consider.

200 iu Humulin r daily and keto diet.

You’ll be sprinting in no time!!!

100mg of Test a week is not going to get you “just above normal levels”, it’ll just shut you down and isn’t worth the risk that is ALWAYS associated with taking steroids. Run properly, AAS will usually be very safe, but there is always a risk of really fucking yourself up. Is that risk worth it to you, for such minimal gain? That is a little lower than most TRT doses, and the goal of TRT is to get you AT normal levels.

Bump it up to 250mg a week, at least. 500mg is optimal. One cycle of AAS is not going to make you blow up with tons of muscle, or turn you into a bodybuilder. All those pros who compete in the Crossfit Games ALL take high doses of testosterone. Keep everything else the same, and report back on how it goes.

p.s. - Crossfit is super gay.

definite contender for the worst cycle proposal of all time.

A trt dose of test, couple with a mimsy little dose of EQ and a frustratingly shit dose of dbol will not give you the strength of a bear, eyes of a hawk or speed of a cheeta

Back to the drawing board for you BraveStarr

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. He probably read a little bit but probably didn’t understand everything right.

Seems like everybody, myself included for my friends, sometimes are looking for the ‘perfect cycle’ for whatever sports/training they’re doing. They probably have read that the ‘basic cycle’ is only 500-600mg of test a week and they’re afraid that it won’t give them the best results ever so they try to combine everything they read about AAS only in smaller doses so they don’t get ‘too big and/or too strong’ in hope of turning into that magical creature that is strong, fast, have endurance, explosive, recover fast and freaking look good on the beach to impress the ladies.

My opinion, first cyle, start easy with a 500-600mg/week of test (enant or cyp) and work from there. Don’t worry you won’t turn into Ronnie Coleman or Reed in 12 weeks.

Also, like Reed said, the little amount you plan of using in Test would only effectively shut you down.

[quote]nocoolnick wrote:
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. He probably read a little bit but probably didn’t understand everything right.

Seems like everybody, myself included for my friends, sometimes are looking for the ‘perfect cycle’ for whatever sports/training they’re doing. They probably have read that the ‘basic cycle’ is only 500-600mg of test a week and they’re afraid that it won’t give them the best results ever so they try to combine everything they read about AAS only in smaller doses so they don’t get ‘too big and/or too strong’ in hope of turning into that magical creature that is strong, fast, have endurance, explosive, recover fast and freaking look good on the beach to impress the ladies.

My opinion, first cyle, start easy with a 500-600mg/week of test (enant or cyp) and work from there. Don’t worry you won’t turn into Ronnie Coleman or Reed in 12 weeks.

Also, like Reed said, the little amount you plan of using in Test would only effectively shut you down. [/quote]

LMAO made my day. Way to much credit coming my way.

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]nocoolnick wrote:
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. He probably read a little bit but probably didn’t understand everything right.

Seems like everybody, myself included for my friends, sometimes are looking for the ‘perfect cycle’ for whatever sports/training they’re doing. They probably have read that the ‘basic cycle’ is only 500-600mg of test a week and they’re afraid that it won’t give them the best results ever so they try to combine everything they read about AAS only in smaller doses so they don’t get ‘too big and/or too strong’ in hope of turning into that magical creature that is strong, fast, have endurance, explosive, recover fast and freaking look good on the beach to impress the ladies.

My opinion, first cyle, start easy with a 500-600mg/week of test (enant or cyp) and work from there. Don’t worry you won’t turn into Ronnie Coleman or Reed in 12 weeks.

Also, like Reed said, the little amount you plan of using in Test would only effectively shut you down. [/quote]

LMAO made my day. Way to much credit coming my way.[/quote]

Nah, just giving credit where it’s due. That’s it.

Thanks for feed back gents, so I’ll up the dose of T to 2x250mg and the D to 2x25mg.

Obviously I’m just learning, hence one of the reasons I’ve come on this forum, there is that much crap out there told by that many idiots who think they know everything it’s not easy to sought out the legit info if you’ve never done it before. Most of the cycle info I tried to read about was for, endurance athletes, cyclists and sprinters!!

Here is one of the articles I based my cycle on which I found on this forum!

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/the_endurance_athlete

Thanks for feedback :+1:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
I think you would have gotten better responses if you hadn’t phrased your original post the way you did. You honestly come across as either the most sarcastic asshole in the world, or someone who knows jack shit about what they’re doing. Hard to get your foot in the door when this is the image you project.

As far as dosing goes, it’s obvious that your test dose is low. As Reed said, the Test isn’t going to do what you think it’s going to do. You don’t seem to be considering the fact that you’ll be shut down. If you really wanted to get your test ‘just above normal’, then why take AAS in the first place? This can be accomplished with test boosters. The reason people use AAS is because achieving Test levels just above normal is not particularly effective for their goals. Just something to consider.[/quote]

hey, dont tell me you needed roids just to look like that yo

[quote]Steve Rogers wrote:
200 iu Humulin r daily and keto diet.

You’ll be sprinting in no time!!! [/quote]

I almost died

[quote]HEART of a LION wrote:
Thanks for feed back gents, so I’ll up the dose of T to 2x250mg and the D to 2x25mg.

Obviously I’m just learning, hence one of the reasons I’ve come on this forum, there is that much crap out there told by that many idiots who think they know everything it’s not easy to sought out the legit info if you’ve never done it before. Most of the cycle info I tried to read about was for, endurance athletes, cyclists and sprinters!!

Here is one of the articles I based my cycle on which I found on this forum!

Thanks for feedback :+1:[/quote]

That post got flamed hard. The post was seeing if an article from somewhere else was legit and had merit to it (obviously didnt). That was not even close to what you should be following.