[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Hey X, for a serious response to your “clothed Ghost” phenomena, think of it like the matrix. If you believe in a Ghost, an actual human who is stuck, attached to their past life, they will have a self image of themselves and thus this is how they would appear.
Now a non-human spirit or something like that big grim reaper looking thing on the wall and ceiling would not have human clothes because either they were never human or they were human so long ago they now have a new self image. In the astral plane where ghosts and spirits supposedly exist, thought is action, self image would create what we view as a body, though it’s really not in a 3rd dimensional reality sense.
Now if you had a pornstar who died and became attached here for some reason, you might get a naked ghost. Give me THAT haunted house please.
Also the reason those pictures are completely fake is because there are too many combinations of things in the pictures. Getting just one of them in the picture would be very hard, you are getting orbs and shadow, then orbs and spectral girl, unless this house was built over the remains of the ghosbusters containment vault, and it has since sprung a leak, you just aren’t going to have all that happening at once.
If any of you like the paranormal, there is a really good podcast calle dmysterious universe. The bloke that does it is australian so it’s fun to listen to anyways, but he covers ghosts, bigfoots, chupicabra, aliens, ufo, etc… really anything out of the ordinary. It’s a lot of fun. http://mysteriousuniverse.org/
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Aaaah, the now classic paranormal “I think it therefore I be it” theory of ghost appearance.
You know the problem I have with that theory? Most people couldn’t draw a freaking straight line if their life depended on it, yet as soon as they die, now we’ve got Vera Wang fashion sense down to the ruffles and cross stitching. I mean, honestly what the fuck? I bet there’s a price tag on the back of that dress.[/quote]
Well technically a ghost doesn’t have a brain, so it wouldn’t be the concious or subconcious mind doing the drawing, it would be the actual spirit, essence, soul, whatever you want to call the non-physical part of us. Now if you don’t beleive in the possibility of that non-physical part of us, then you don’t believe in the possibility of ghosts, or at least humans “becoming” ghosts.
I think it’s quite possible for us to have a 4th demensional being that is essentially “experiencing” our 3rd dimensional world. Similar to us playing a video game, I become master chief in the halo 3 series. So maybye even though we have someone steering us, maybe someone or something is steering them, and so forth and so on.
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Anyone who believes in a higher power more than likely also believes in the existence of a “spirit”, so the issue is not that I disbelieve in any sort of scientifically unexplained existence of our own being on a plain that most of us can not see.
The issue here is very simple…pictures of supposed ghosts somehow wearing fashions that are extremely intricate makes no logical sense. A spirit would not care about the style of clothing.
Notice also that most “ghosts” are somehow limited to big historical events and the clothing of those eras. You NEVER see some picture of a caveman ghost or of a Native American with a headdress. Nearly all of these pics are modern men and women or Civil War soldiers or people who died in the early 1900’s.
In other words, it just doesn’t make sense. I could see a ghost “wearing” something LIKE a shirt, but when that shirt is specifically a POLO T-SHIRT with great stitching and fucking wrinkle free, we have a problem, Houston.[/quote]
Yea, I agree, when you get that level of detail, it’s most likley just a hoax. I think nearly all “evidence” is just hoaxes. I do think a ghost from a human who is stuck here and not just some random spiritual entity would tend to view themselves as human and thus would have a self image which would be similar to one they held during thier life. This would include some form of clothing. I tend to think of ghosts as dead people who’s spirits are just lingering too long, so in the terms of a couple hundred years, you will have a higher percentage of ghosts from most recent to a lower percentage that go back a long way, they eventually will move on. So seeing a caveman ghost? I think any of those spirits would have moved on by now.
I would not be surprised if there were still some spirits hanging around in say an egyptian tomb. They had very strong body identities, they thought thier bodies traveled to the next life with them, so they likley had a higher instance of the “lingering effect” if that is actually what causes a ghost in the first place.
I know for a fact my ass isn’t going to be a ghost. I mean as soon as I realize my body is dead and I still exist in another form, talk about the most satisfying thing you will ever experience. THE one question pretty much universally all humans would like to know the answer to, what happens when you die. When I die, IF that answer is revealed, I can’t think of anything better. All that really has to happen is some part of my conciousness remains active, I still have some type of connection or memory of who or what I was in this life and I still exist in another form. I am getting giddy just thinking about that prospect.
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