I never asked you to not speak your peice so I don’t know where the lecture came from? Pehaps it’s yet another of the Neo-Con tactics, when you get challenged, cry censorship? did I get that right? Nice, you guys picked that one right up off the Liberal Playbook, at least you are smart enough to change tactics when your getting your ass handed to you.
Perhaps you should re-read your original post in this exchange. Then maybe you will see the “lecture” you attempted to give me.
To call me a neo-con is to either have no fucking clue what a neo-con is, or to have no clue about my positions. Which is it?
You can challenge me all you want. I love fighting about shit I am passionate about. But to wag your finger at me, tell me to lay off the bitch, and then proceed to call me a bully - well, how much of a fight can that truly be when you are whining like a spoiled child?
Just for shits and giggles - who is handing me my ass? You? You have to bring more than the warm and fuzzies, and pathetically dull sarcasm to to actually claim victory.
The rudimentary problem here lies at the position of Sheehan versus the position of pelosi. Pelosi and her democrats, took back the house Specifically to end the war in Iraq, and to bring charges against the Bush administration. They tapped into a very angry veing of the population of this country, and as a result they gained control of both houses of congress. And people waited, and more spending for the Iraq war got passed, and people waited, and yet new record funding was passed, with the right amount of democratic pork of course, and people waited. When people asked Pelosi, why they weren’t pushing for a pullout like she said they would, she said, Oh the surge is working now we changed our minds.
No, the people once again got played like a fiddle, Politicians read what people wanted to hear, and told them exactly that to get into power. Now while Obama is going to be the next president, I expect the congress will shift back to a republican one 2 years later, after it is apparent that the Democrats are the ones who fucked the economy. At least the financial end of it. I mean The executive branch and thier wars and military spending has dropped the dollars value by about 30-40% in the past 8 years, so thats fucking great too, but yea no, lets keep the people who “know washington” and can “get things done” in power so we can all be saved.
Bullshit, we ned people who are pissed off, who will not fuck around with special interests, government corruption and lying. Regardless of what you think of her personally, I feel she will be honest and uncorruptable if she were to obtain office. These in my OPINION, should be the charachteristics of our lawmakers, not who will agree with us the most, or tell us what we want to hear, or get us the most free stuff.
If you think Sheehan is the model of who we need running our country, then knock yourself out.
She is a grand stander who is getting all of her attention because her son was killed in a war she didn’t support.
I can go to the coffee shop, throw a dead cat, and hit 3 or 4 people with one shot who have a better grip on reality than that stupid cunt.
I’ll give you that, That was pretty damn funny, and also pretty damn true, but again, it goes to my origional premis that any motherfucker who isn’t in power can do a better job than the asshats we have in there now. Both sides are ripping the country apart, and going back and forth between them only makes it worse.
I was lecturing you more on your delivery than on your positions. I know you well enough to know what you value. I don’t disagree with many of your positions, but the ones I do disagree on I think need to be fleshed out. After all, we argue to sway someones opinion towards our own. Otherwise what would the point be. You like to get in someones face and try to make them feel like an idiot so that they will re-evaluate themselves. Thats cool, and i’m sure it works every once in a while. I can’t say I have never done that myself. I now try to use some humor and sarcasm to deflect peoples attacks or overstatements, and respond with some simple statements that are easy to understand and common sense worthy.
I guess we could continue to go back and forth each trying to out manuever eachother. We could argue about who is trying to lecture who, or who is telling the other to shut the fuck up. The bottom line is that that will mean we are no longer arguing over the merits of the topic at hand. Which would be a shame, because I think it’s a good topic to argue over.
So lets get back into it. My main problem with Pelosi, is that she is a career politician, a liar, and completely wasted her opportunity to check the runaway right. Now it’s not like I want a runaway left any more than a runaway right, It’s not like I want to give up my guns, pay for everyone else healthcare, retirement, and now bad mortgages. Both sides are false choices that only lead to more control by the federal government. The Current republicans have been complacent in the erosion of several freedoms and have attempted to erode many more than that but they just didn’t get them passed. The democrats will not reverse any of those, but will simply add thier own like much stricter gun restrictions, and add in thier wonderful wealth redistribution. But they don’t redistribute from the rich to the poor, they redistribute from the middle class and the poor to the rich with thier programs. Have you ever thought about it? They make programs for people to spend money at the very places that provide them with the biggest campaign contributions. The drug companies would love universal healthcare. Imagine all that tax money they could tap into just by saying one of thier wonder drugs will help some poor person have a better life.
This site it the antithesis for that, The way a person becomes healthy and has a better life is to do some excercise, stop being lazy, eat nutritious food, Stop smoking and drinking. You won’t even need healthcare if you do this. Again, I know ou agree with me on this issue so sorry for preaching to the choir, but you can’t argue that some of the erosions of the constitution that right have done are pretty bad. Whats worse, is that your worst nightmare is going to come true when all the powers bush just took for himself, are going to be handed to a democrat, with a democratic congress. We’ll have people being called terrorists for littering and being put into a fema camp with no trial or charges filed against them.
It’s too much power, and the only thing we are gaining is less ecurity at home, not more. We may decrease the risk of a foreign muslim terrorist attack, but we gaurentee attacks on americans by our own government.