I took a quick pic today of the area. Maybe not the best pic but you can see the divot and where the bruising has started. That’s about as far as I can lift my arm right now. My GP said it looks like I will need to go under the knife but it doesn’t look like a complete rupture. He got me in quick to see a orthopedic surgeon in 3 days. It sounds like the quicker you address this the better the outcome.
It’s generally true that sooner is better in cases such as yours. And based on that pic, it does appear to be a tear. Obviously, the in-person exam will confirm or deny (very very small chance, IMO) this.
I did get the “You ain’t 21 no more speech” from him but it was a bit tongue in cheek.
I’m going to refer to you a thread back from June/July of this year. In that thread, you talked about a strain in the groin region.
Specifically, I’m going to refer you to the comments I made on July 14. In addition to describing in (what I feel) is pretty damn good detail of what your injury may be, I gave some advice which I had hoped you took seriously:
…let’s face an undeniable truth: at 47, you’re no spring chicken…If you want, give an update and we can from go there. Wrong decisions at this point in your life will absolutely flush you back down into the cumulative injury cycle. [/quote]
Yes, the injury from back in the summer was in the leg and now you have an injury at the pec region.
This leads me to believe that you are either:
- One of the unluckiest people that I’ve come across.
- You continue to engage in a reckless training methods with little regard for the consequences. The bench, dead, and squat have their place in a strength/conditioning program. However, when an experience lifter continues to injure himself, I strongly suspect that he is not doing what’s necessary to establish and maintain long-term health.
Now, only you really know whether it’s #1 or #2 that applies to you.
If the answer is #1, take the point spread on whatever football (college or NFL) game you feel really good about…then bet the OPPOSITE. This way, at least you can make some $$$ off your horrendous luck.
If the answer is #2, then I am sorry for you. And I only rehash this in hopes that someone else can learn from your cautionary tale. [/quote]
I agree hell if I never touched a weight I’m sure I would never had a groin or pec tear; nothing ventured, nothing gained. Tell me if I’m off base here, and if I am, I apologize now. This is a simple yes or no question. Have you at anytime in your life held 400 lbs in your hands on the bench, dead lifted and squatted over 600 lbs? [/quote]
No, no, and no.
To be perfectly honest, I haven’t aggressively pursued the traditional bench since I was freshman in college.
To be perfectly honest, I’ve never went for max weights on the dead or the (traditional) squat.
But if you ever go through my posts on this forum, you’ll quickly find out that I’m NOT nor do I ever plan on being a powerlifter. Therefore, I don’t train for max numbers on those three lifts.
You see, in my youth, I’ve also made the mistake of chasing arbitrary trophies in sports such as the martial arts and rock climbing.
And as the injuries - the trinkets of poor decision making - began to add up, I evolved.
In other words, I do NOT define myself in what I can or cannot do in the bench, dead, or squat.
I see some value in those lifts that can be extrapolated to various situations. However, my formal training in Strength/Conditioning (as well as good old fashioned common sense) tells me that trying to reach PRs in those three lifts has a cost to benefit ratio that I saw little value in - especially for someone who doesn’t compete in the sport.
Does this mean that I’m some punk who lifts those pretty little db’s while standing one-legged on a bosu ball…?
If you’re ever in So Cal, pay me a visit. And bring a video camera for posterity. We’ll meet at a local gym of your choosing and if you can EVEN KEEP UP with me in my lifts, you’ll be welcome to gloat as much as you like.
My current weight fluctuates around low 190s. You’re probably in the low to mid 200s. We won’t even adjust the weight for the difference. In other words, you don’t have to handicap me and go on percentages. It’ll be just who moves more weight in a given lift. Simple as that. And you’ll get owned, simple as that.
What myopic people like you fail to see is that there are different expressions of raw strength and power.
What myopic people like you fail to see is that, outside of a powerlifting meet, internet forum, and a few other places, very few people give a rat’s ass…hell, not even the scab off a dead rat’s ass how much they max on those three lifts.
What those with clarity see is that the worst form of hell you can find yourself in is to look back at one’s life with regret.
And who do you think will have more regret in his later years…? The guy who is in pain every single day of his life with the hideous dimple on his pec? Or the guy who can still be active and live pain free…?
And don’t try to sell me on some badge of honor horseshit. The soldier who’ve suffered permanent injuries protecting our country DESERVE such titles. Assholes with warped views of reality who, by not taking simple yet protective in the weight room, only deserve a modicum of pity.
I see them all the time. They sheepishly approach me when no one else is around and tell me about some injury they inflicted on themselves. And you can practically hear the violins as they beg for something - anything - that can make them feel whole again. The genuinely honest ones end the conversation by admitting that they never should have been so foolish.
Make no mistake: I do believe in the adage that a perfectly safe exercise is a perfectly useless exercise. In other words, some risk must be taken each and every time we step into a weight room.
However - AND PAY ATTENTION HERE - that risk must be calculated and respected.
It is abundantly clear that you are not nor will you ever be in this group.
It is also abundantly clear that you are myopic in what you define as strong.
And you’ve shown no evidence in your ability to improve in your chosen endeavor in an intelligent manner.
Like I implied in my earlier post, it’s obvious that any effort at turning you into a smarter lifter is beyond hope.
I am taking the time to spell things out in the hope others who read this will learn from the likes of you.
So, go ahead. Contribute to some otho’s bank account. Contribute to some PT’s bank account. Hell, at this point, they’re probably going to send you Christmas cards.
And once you reach a semblance of healing, look me up if you’re ever in So Cal. Make sure that video camera has a fully charged battery. And just try to keep up with me in the lifts that I care about and pursue.
Because while people like you are getting on and off that absurd merry go round of injury/rehab/injury, people like me are training pain free, injury free, and continuing to make steady progress.
(edited for clarity)