PCT / Pubertal Gyno Reversal using Raloxifen & Tamoxifen

I’m just finishing up a cycle a Test E cycle… Went from 185 lbs at an estimated 15% BF to 205 lbs at an estimated 12-14% BF. Saw a drastic jump in strength and size, noticeable leaner and more vascular. Libido has been through the roof, noticed a good increase in aggressiveness, etc. All in all, great cycle. This is my second cycle.

Weeks 1-8: 1 g/week Test E
Weeks 2-8: 0.5 mg EOD Arimidex
Weeks 2-8: 250 mg 2x/week HCG
Weeks 8-9: Taper Arimidex down
Weeks 9-10: Tapered Test E down
Week 10-??: Raloxifene, 60 mg/day
Week 11-??: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), 20 mg/day

Two 2 week cycles of Clenbuterol throughout

It’s important to note that I injected the test EOD. Even though it is a long ester, this was just a trial based off some previous literature I read to help keep test levels more stable by injecting enthanate EOD. Couldn’t say if it worked any better or not, but it definitely didn’t cause any harm.

I’m pretty sure (obviously no way to know for sure) that the gear was underdosed, so that is the reasoning for the high AI. The original plan was 750 mg/week of Test, but I bumped that up to a gram a week to compensate for it potentially being underdosed.

I am currently at the end of Week 10. I tapered off the AI last week, took my second to last injection this morning. Last injection (something like 25mg) will happen Saturday morning.

So here’s the interesting stuff:

I’ve had pubertal gyno sense I was 13. Used to be fat (around 19-20). I weighed 205 lbs, very little muscle mass. The gyno was very noticeable then. Since I’ve been lifting and put on a significant amount of muscle / keep my BF fairly low, it’s not as noticeable but it definitely alters the general shape of my pec. I didn’t notice any nipple sensitivity or growth in the gyno in this cycle or my previous cycle.

I’ve decided, after extensive research through forums and literature, to run a PCT involving a combination of Raloxifen and Nolvadex. Beginning on 3/10, I started dosing the Raloxifen at 60 mg/day. Side note: I’ve never tasted anything so horrible. I’m going to keep running the raloxifen for 2-3 months, or until I see some sort of results related to my gyno.

Beginning on 3/17, two days after my last injection, I’ll start with 20mg/day of Nolva and continue this for a month or two.

I just had bloodwork done on 3/10 at the end of my cycle. Unfortunately, I have no pre-cycling bloodwork to compare to. I will continue having bloodwork done every 2 weeks throughout the duration of this experiment.

Bloodwork and before pictures to follow. Please feel free to ask any questions you’d like or any criticisms. I’m open to it all.

Edit: Here’s the well-read report on raloxifene/tamoxifen usin in pubertal gyno reversal.

Abstract:

I have the full text if anyone is interested.

Bloodwork, taken on 3/10. I had stopped using an AI at this point. Hopefully this explains the elevated estradiol. Any comments on the highly elevated AST and ALT?

Picture, taken this morning, 202 lbs morning weight at 5’9". I’m not sure how often I’ll update this aside from responding to other posts, as this process with the raloxifene is supposed to take a while to notice anything, but I’ll keep everyone updated.

Side note: I have plenty of cialis on hand at that I’m going to start dosing soon at 5 mg/day. Any other suggestions on how to keep libido up and raging as much as possible throughout this process?

Forgot the picture…

[quote]PulsedEE wrote:
Forgot the picture…[/quote]

The pic is not the best but if you had gyno, I can’t really see anything there. That’s great news!

Do I have this right; you were using 1 gram a week for 8 weeks with a taper on weeks 9-10?

In all, it sounds like you came a long way. Good job.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]PulsedEE wrote:
Forgot the picture…[/quote]

The pic is not the best but if you had gyno, I can’t really see anything there. That’s great news!

Do I have this right; you were using 1 gram a week for 8 weeks with a taper on weeks 9-10?

In all, it sounds like you came a long way. Good job.[/quote]

I’ll get another pic of where the gyno more evident… particularly when it’s flexed or the nipple isn’t hard (it looks significantly puffier).

Thats right, 1 gram per week of (very likely) underdosed test for 8 weeks, then a taper week 9 and 10. Tomorrow is my last injection on the week 10 taper. I’ve started raloxifene (60mg/day) at the beginning of week 10, and will start nolva at 20mg/day at the beginning of week 10 to see if I can reverse the pubertal gyno as well as (obviously) HPTA recovery.

[quote]PulsedEE wrote:

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]PulsedEE wrote:
Forgot the picture…[/quote]

The pic is not the best but if you had gyno, I can’t really see anything there. That’s great news!

Do I have this right; you were using 1 gram a week for 8 weeks with a taper on weeks 9-10?

In all, it sounds like you came a long way. Good job.[/quote]

I’ll get another pic of where the gyno more evident… particularly when it’s flexed or the nipple isn’t hard (it looks significantly puffier).

Thats right, 1 gram per week of (very likely) underdosed test for 8 weeks, then a taper week 9 and 10. Tomorrow is my last injection on the week 10 taper. I’ve started raloxifene (60mg/day) at the beginning of week 10, and will start nolva at 20mg/day at the beginning of week 10 to see if I can reverse the pubertal gyno as well as (obviously) HPTA recovery.[/quote]

Did you ever consider cutting back to 750 mg/wk and running it out for a few more weeks? I zero medical research on this but I feel the longer time gives you more training time to be exposed to your higher T.