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Pct or Continue???


#1

Guys, here's my deal. I ran deca 400mg wk-10wks & test 500mg wk-12wks. Went great, awesome gains, no sides(besides wanting to bang my wife 4 times a day), now I am at 2 weeks after last test pin and feel the lethargic-ness and weak feeling alot in the last couple days. I have been on adex tapering down now and have nolva and clomid onhand for pct, but I think I wanna go again now.

I can get test e or cyp in 24hrs notice to atleast cruise(250-500mg a week maybe) a couple weeks until I start the next cycle.

I have seen some of you vets say you dont ever PCT now just continue cycle or blast and cruise. I see why now. This shit sucks I want my gear back now.

Does that sound ok?? or did I wait to long considering it is time to start PCT. I can pin test tomorrow if I get the answer tonight, but dont wanna wait to long.

Thanks


#2

Pros and Cons both ways man. How ever I never come off and honestly enjoy it. Love the constant gains, feeling good, dont have to deal with PCT and coming off ( weakness, fatigue, loss of gains). But what you have to come to terms with here just as every one else does is that the longer your on the harder it is to ever return to normal if you even ever do. It is a huge possibility and most likely a guarantee you will shut your self down permanently and will be on TRT for the rest of your life.

No one can give you a definite answer to this question just like every aspect of AAS there are consequences to either decision.


#3

I understand, and thanks for the response. I was gonna PCT and go to a tren, test prop, masteron cycle next, but now wish I had just ran the test thru, leaned up and ran the test deca again. I felt great, and am nursing an injury so the water kept the joints lubed up.

As to the permanent TRT, my levels were low to begin with, and the thought of TRT forever doesnt bother me too bad. I felt alive again after running test for the first time since college.

If it isnt gonna hurt me to start pinning the test E at a lower dose for a couple weeks and then blast back up to 750/wk test 500/wk deca thats what I am gonna do.


#4

or do you say low test for a couple weeks then the tren a/test p/ mast cycle for 12 weeks. its a bit more expensive, more possible sides but alot leaner gains and I am 5’9 225 15-16%, 33yrs. could use the leaning up after the water gains of the deca


#5

[quote]rupe8 wrote:
I understand, and thanks for the response. I was gonna PCT and go to a tren, test prop, masteron cycle next, but now wish I had just ran the test thru, leaned up and ran the test deca again. I felt great, and am nursing an injury so the water kept the joints lubed up.

As to the permanent TRT, my levels were low to begin with, and the thought of TRT forever doesnt bother me too bad. I felt alive again after running test for the first time since college.

If it isnt gonna hurt me to start pinning the test E at a lower dose for a couple weeks and then blast back up to 750/wk test 500/wk deca thats what I am gonna do.[/quote]

if you can accept that then here’s what I do just food for thought…

12-16 weeks Blast
750-1000mg of Test
750mg of Tren
500mg of Deca (mainly for joint relief)
add 100mg Anadrol daily 4 weeks out of a meet if one is during the blast.

4-6 weeks cruise ( if you even wanna call it that most my friends just say a smaller cycle haha)
200mg Test
200mg Deca
20mg Nolva

12-16 weeks Blast
1000mg of Test
750mg of Eq
500mg of Deca
add Halo 60mg daily 4 weeks out of a meet.

repeat Cruise

Repeat year.


#6

oooh…nice, that looks glorious. So I am about to figure that dent to the old budget, but I am goin for it thnx.

Do you have any advice to reduce water gains/ puffyness with all that deca? Im not naturally the leanest of people reguardless of how much I wtch the diet.


#7

one more thing, are you runnin Enath or prop and ace


#8

from the dosages I assume enath


#9

[quote]rupe8 wrote:
from the dosages I assume enath[/quote]

Personally I enjoy the water from the deca but, I have had great success with eating lower carb, keeping water sky high, and low dose nolva or AI would work great but I don’t run either especially when on blast.

Also I switch esters but for the most long esters as I see little to no real benefit strength speaking running a fast acting ester when its already in your system fully. Except the last week before a meet I have ran 100mg of Test Suspension and Tren Ace every day on top of everything for a final blitz to the goal


#10

got it good info ordering now


#11

No problem


#12

get caber on hand if your running that much tren and deca…and fuck pct… stupid concept…pct drugs in a way are a lot worse for you than the actual gear your running. blast and cruise is cheaper as well. pct is expensive