I did 2 of each. Both times var for 60-80mg for 4 weeks, second time toremifene at 60mg ed as well.
What I can remember is that both times my hdl dropped quite a bit. About 10 points. LDL dropped a bit as well. On paper, tore should have helped, but it didn't, or not noticably.
First time my liver values went up a bit, with AST above the "normal" limit. Second time, I supplemented with NAC, AST was once again above "normal" limit, 1 of the other 2 actually decreased, don't remember which one.
More important, my total T was about halved the first time. Second time, it decreased only a bit. My SHBG was really low the first time, but in the normal range the second time.