Which is why I was replying to Soul and not you when comparing top down to bottom up down there’s a huge difference and Im sorry I should of expanded further.
Lots of people say bottom up is better because it’s eccentric less, except that only counts for the first rep.
As for the hips rising, you’re not wrong and I don’t think I am either. It’s one of those things where yes you get better and some things get better but it’s because you have no choice but to not get better ( if that makes sense )
I’m new to wraps and my first meet is gonna be in wraps in a couple of months. Right now I’m trying to get that wrapped squat technique going. There’s a bit on my log but so far things I’m working on are:
Getting deep and loading up and “staying” in the wraps if you know what I mean. Also I’m working synchronising my drive out of the bottom with my muscles with the rebound from the wraps from the stored up elastic energy. Right now it feels like there’s a disconnect
So take it for what it is worth but of you pay attention most men squatting like you do dont get much out of wraps compared to the more traditional wider stance sit back squat. When I was wearing Oly shoes and letting my knees travel further I never got the same pop from the wraps I did until I went back to flats and sitting back. Its the same reason if you look Kevin Oak, Amit Sapir and somilar styles of squatting never get that huge carry over that many of the other guys in their weight classes are getting with a more hip dominate squat like Andrew Herbert and Sam Byrd and the such.
That’s interesting, a guy named Paul Oneid who writes articles on Brian Carroll’s site Power Rack Strength has an article saying the exact opposite, that lifters with a more quad-dominant style in heeled shoes with a good amount of forward knee travel will get the most out of their wraps. I don’t know who is right or wrong, it’s just interesting to see two complete opposite opinions like this from two credible people. And both of you have a 800lb squat in wraps…
I dont know him but you can look all the top all time world record holders and in wraps they are almost all sit back squatters even if in heels. But im just going kff what I see what I have personally experienced.
Your sticking pint is mid way from I see in your squats. The wrap when you get truely stop actually carrying over that high so at lighter reps you can keeo the speed flying from the wrap but the you put another 10% on and all of a sudden it is like you hit a wall. Where as squatting fairly wide and sitting back in sleeves our sticking point is usually right out of the hole like almost immediately right out. So when I wear wraps the wraps literally slingshot me not only to but straight through my sticking point and then by the time the wrap lets up all I have to do is just barely wedge my hips through and im locked. Hell I half squat 1003 lol so if I can get the wraps to throw me up just a little 700-800 is cake.
This is why my best sleeved squat is a grinded 650 and my best wrap squat is smooth 815.
And a 3 second pause is stupid as fuck especially if we are talking at a meet hell even a full second pause is stupid. But none the less im still going to say I disagree. They can be useful. For every one maybe not. But they have a place occasionally as said I dont use them as strength tool as much as the first few weeks back in wraps they help me find my groove. Also I went through your IG just out of curiosity and I dont see any pause even half a second. You squat down and come back up. You have pretty slow reversal but I wouldn’t call not being explosive a pause.
Lastly I didn’t come here to argue. I saw a question that I feel I have pretty good experience with so I gave my answer. It seems to disagree with yours which is fine. OP can read what is said and figure out who said it and decide from there not gonna lose sleep either way.