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Pat Tillman is no hero he got what he deserved according to this piece of shit.

Just saw this. I know everybody has a right to an opinion, but how can this piece of shit named Rene Gonzalez be so fucking ignorant.

Here’s the article.

"Pat Tillman is not a hero: he got what he deserved

by Rene Gonzalez
April 28, 2004

When the death of Pat Tillman occurred, I turned to my friend who was watching the news with me and said, “How much you want to bet they start talking about him as a ‘hero’ in about two hours?” Of course, my friend did not want to make that bet. He’d lose. In this self-critical incapable nation, nothing but a knee-jerk “He’s a hero” response is to be expected.

I’ve been mystified at the absolute nonsense of being in “awe” of Tillman’s “sacrifice” that has been the American response. Mystified, but not surprised. True, it’s not everyday that you forgo a $3.6 million contract for joining the military. And, not just the regular army, but the elite Army Rangers. You know he was a real Rambo, who wanted to be in the “real” thick of things. I could tell he was that type of macho guy, from his scowling, beefy face on the CNN pictures. Well, he got his wish. Even Rambo got shot in the third movie, but in real life, you die as a result of being shot. They should call Pat Tillman’s army life "Rambo 4: Rambo Attempts to Strike Back at His Former Rambo 3 Taliban Friends, and

Gets Killed."

But, does that make him a hero? I guess it’s a matter of perspective. For people in the United States, who seem to be unable to admit the stupidity of both the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars, such a trade-off in life standards (if not expectancy) is nothing short of heroic. Obviously, the man must be made of “stronger stuff” to have had decided to “serve” his country rather than take from it. It’s the old JFK exhortation to citizen service to the nation, and it seems to strike an emotional chord. So, it’s understandable why Americans automatically knee-jerk into hero worship.

However, in my neighborhood in Puerto Rico, Tillman would have been called a “pendejo,” an idiot. Tillman, in the absurd belief that he was defending or serving his all-powerful country from a seventh-rate, Third World nation devastated by the previous conflicts it had endured, decided to give up a comfortable life to place himself in a combat situation that cost him his life. This was not “Ramon or Tyrone,” who joined the military out of financial necessity, or to have a chance at education. This was a “G.I. Joe” guy who got what was coming to him. That was not heroism, it was prophetic idiocy.

Tillman, probably acting out his nationalist-patriotic fantasies forged in years of exposure to Clint Eastwood and Rambo movies, decided to insert himself into a conflict he didn’t need to insert himself into. It wasn’t like he was defending the East coast from an invasion of a foreign power. THAT would have been heroic and laudable. What he did was make himself useful to a foreign invading army, and he paid for it. It’s hard to say I have any sympathy for his death because I don’t feel like his “service” was necessary. He wasn’t defending me, nor was he defending the Afghani people. He was acting out his macho, patriotic crap and I guess someone with a bigger gun did him in.

Perhaps it’s the old, dreamy American thought process that forces them to put sports greats and “larger than life” sacrificial lambs on the pedestal of heroism, no matter what they’ve done. After all, the American nation has no other role to play but to be the cheerleaders of the home team; a sad role to have to play during conflicts that suffer from severe legitimacy and credibility problems.

Matters are a little clearer for those living outside the American borders. Tillman got himself killed in a country other than his own without having been forced to go over to that country to kill its people. After all, whether we like them or not, the Taliban is more Afghani than we are. Their resistance is more legitimate than our invasion, regardless of the fact that our social values are probably more enlightened than theirs. For that, he shouldn’t be hailed as a hero, he should be used as a poster boy for the dangerous consequences of too much “America is #1,” frat boy, propaganda bull. It might just make a regular man irrationally drop $3.6 million to go fight in a conflict that was anything but “self-defense.” The same could be said of the unusual belief of 50 percent of the American nation that thinks Saddam Hussein was behind Sept. 11. One must indeed stand in awe of the amazing success of the American propaganda machine. It works wonders.

Al-Qaeda won’t be defeated in Afghanistan, even if we did kill all their operatives there. Only through careful and logical changing of the underlying conditions that allow for the ideology to foster will Al-Qaeda be defeated. Ask the Israelis if 50 years of blunt force have eradicated the Palestinian resistance. For that reason, Tillman’s service, along with that of thousands of American soldiers, has been wrongly utilized. He did die in vain, because in the years to come, we will realize the irrationality of the War on Terror and the American reaction to Sept. 11. The sad part is that we won’t realize it before we send more people like Pat Tillman over to their deaths."

Rene Gonzalez is a UMass graduate student.

Fucker lives in PR, what the hell you expect.

To live in Puerto Rico does not make anyone a fucker! That has nothing to do with it. Just as there are stupid Puerto Ricans, there are stupid Americans or Mexicans or Chinese or what the fuck ever. We should not turn this into a racist argument.


I dont consider that a credible piece of writing. Its just some dumbass’s opinion which he is trying to impose upon others, under the pretenses of a UMASS grad student. I think its BS.

Yes, I heard about this on the radio yesterday. I really don’t know what to say about it. In the article, Gonzales says that he is originally from Puerto Rico. He migrates to America to get an education and make a better life for himself, only to piss on the country that opens her doors for him.

He's obviously a piece of trash and should be treated as such. Fuck him and everything he stands for!

Gonzales should be thankful that he has affirmative racism at his diposal. Otherwise, he wouldn't have made it into UMASS. His mental instability is obvious.


this dude is a fool.

rene gonzalez, you are indeed a big piece of shit

I wonder if Ms. Gonzalez has a fucking clue what it is like to have your own set of balls between your legs, and maybe actually give a fuck about your fellow man by sacrificing and yes even dying, for what you beleive in, after Ms. Gonzalez finishes sucking my engorged testosterone filled Cock, perhaps she would like to place some nice fluorescent markers on the lawn of her house in old Puerto Rico, so a big ol’ B-1 can carpet bomb the fuck out of her, psst, Ms. gonzalez – Fuck You… Love and peace Splint

Wouldn’t it be nice if someone whacked Rene Gonzalez, then we could say that he got what he deserved.


My friend who served in Iraq in the Army also thinks Tillman was an idiot.

Some of his comrades-in-arms feel the same way as well.

She has guts for voicing her opinion anyway. Howabout making some lucid arguments against her viewpoint instead of just knee-jerk hatred?

Doosh bag.
I’ll be happy to show up at this fuckwads house with Tillman’s brother and we can discuss her ‘opinion’.
Like assholes, everyone has one.

What was this asshole doing when he tried to place this bet with his friend? Sitting on his ass watching fucking TV. The VERY least you can say is that Tillman DID something with his life. Maybe he is not a hero maybe he is but at least he didn’t sit on the couch and belittle others to make himself fell better about his shitty little life. What a dick.

UMass Student Apologizes To Tillman Family For Column
Man Admits Article Was ‘Insensitive’

POSTED: 10:39 p.m. EDT April 29, 2004
UPDATED: 11:02 p.m. EDT April 29, 2004

AMHERST, Mass. – A University of Massachusetts at Amherst graduate student is apologizing to Pat Tillman’s family.

Rene Gonzalez had written a column for the campus paper saying the football player-turned-soldier who died in combat in Afghanistan wasn’t a hero – but a “G.I. Joe guy who got what was coming to him.”

Gonzalez said in an e-mail to a Boston TV station that he was trying to say Tillman’s celebrity had factored into his being labeled a hero.

He admits he tried to prove his point in an “insensitive way” and that the article wasn’t worth publishing.

The school’s president issued a statement calling Gonzalez’s column “a disgusting, arrogant and intellectually immature attack” on Tillman.

The paper ran a letter to readers today saying the column didn’t express the paper’s views.

It seems amazing to me that gonzales would have no clue of the ramifications his article would cause to the Tillman family, American patriotism and common sense in general. To apologize after the fact is simply not taking responsibility for his actions. What he needs to remember is that Tillman, as well as all the others that have given their lives or limbs, make it possible for him to be allowed to voice his opinion. That, alone makes him a hero. But, because he chose to leave a cushy life, his family, and a sweet NFL contract raises that level of heroism.

Oh well, just my .02 worth

kike, Puerto Ricans are Americans.

what a dumb rican

I think the school’s president said it best…

“The school’s president issued a statement calling Gonzalez’s column “a disgusting, arrogant and intellectually immature attack” on Tillman.”

Did anybody else sense that his writing was at least somewhat led by sub-conscious anti-american prosperity, or anti-big tough american sentiment. I really got the feeling that Gonzalez had some underlying issues with football players or american prosperity in general (of which Tillman represented both), and this occurence just acted as the catalyst for him to expose his bullshit issues to the world. I would also be in favor of him being knocked the fuck out while trying to justify his maliscious comments, preferably by a Tillman brother and mother tag team.

Good post Rich.