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Pasta At Night?

Hi

On workout days most of my meals are P+F right up until just before I workout. Usually I workout between 7:30pm and 9pm. After my workout I consume my post workout shake and then another P+C meal before bed. My P+C meal before bed is usually whole-wheat pasta and Tuna. Someone told me that having something like pasta before bed will only lead to fat storage.

This is how my meal combinations look for the day

P+C
P+F
P+F
P+F
Liquid P+C
Liquid P+C
Liquid p+C
P+C

I’m not fussed about gaining a little fat when I’m trying to bulk. Would it be better to up the carbs in my post workout shake then instead have a P+F meal right before I hit he sack to help minimize fat gain?

Thanks

Would it be possible to rearrange your meals, so your last pre-workout meal is P+C, and the last meal of the day is P+F? That might help to control any excessive fat gain. Though, I guess the big questions are:
A - Are you noticing significant fat gain by eating this way now?

and B - If you are okay with it so far, is it that big a deal? (Meaning, are you trying to get cut up? If not, it may not be worth the sacrifice of taking in a P+F meal post-workout)

Thanks for the reply

My meal combinations are set this way as recommendation from John Berardi’s book. I have been gaining quite a bit of fat but

  1. I’m not sure how much fat gain is reasonable when trying to bulk

  2. It could be because I?m just eating too much

Could I just increase the carbs in my PWO shake and then have a P+F meal before I go to bed?

[quote]almost wrote:
Thanks for the reply

My meal combinations are set this way as recommendation from John Berardi’s book. I have been gaining quite a bit of fat but

  1. I’m not sure how much fat gain is reasonable when trying to bulk

  2. It could be because I?m just eating too much

Could I just increase the carbs in my PWO shake and then have a P+F meal before I go to bed?
[/quote]

Just because you increase your carbs in one shake won’t help much.

Make use of the post-workout period to replenish your muscle glycogen stores by having carbs at REGULAR intervals.

summary: have a solid P+C meal (1 hour later) after your liquid P+C post-workout meal

Although I think there may be better carb choices than pasta (as a staple food), post-workout carbs (and proteins) are a good idea regardless of time of day. (…at least until we have more specific diurnal data).

I think it’s wise not to be too vehement about the whole P+F versus P+C thing. It’s true that avoiding carb+fat foods like donuts, fries and buttery bread (or oily pasta) may be helpful; but too much focus on food combining starts to sound a bit hokey.

Let me qualify what I just said because I don’t want you to read it negatively.

It’s truly great that a person has the fortitude and intelligence to attempt to “stack the cards in his metabolic favor”. That’s what the Think Tank is all about. I just like to remind everyone that solid dietary habits rather than hypothesis-stage regimes are best.

So many Americans eat so, so poorly; sometimes we don’t realize just how far ahead we are. It’s no crime to take pride in applying newly learned facts toward moderate behavioral changes, based on personal history, etc.