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Palin Ain't Goin' NO WHERE, Baby!


#1

3 HOURS AGO: AP

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she's not only staying involved in national politics, but she plans to jump back into the national scrum when she leaves office at the end of the month.

The former Republican vice presidential nominee said she plans to write a book, campaign for political candidates from coast to coast...even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence...and build a right-of-center coalition.

"I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation" she said during an interview published Sunday in The Washington Times.

This should be interesting.

Another "Contract with America" kind of push?

"Right-of-Center"?

Thoughts?

Mufasa


#2

Anyone who thought she was going to spend the rest of her life hunting moose in Alaska was a bit naive.


#3

C’mon, guys!

I really think this could be interesting!

IT APPEARS that running for President is NOT what she wants to do.

Perhaps some grass-roots, bi-partisan effort at Governmental reform?

That would be a tough one.

Mufasa


#4

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
C’mon, guys!

I really think this could be interesting!

IT APPEARS that running for President is NOT what she wants to do.

Perhaps some grass-roots, bi-partisan effort at Governmental reform?

That would be a tough one.

Mufasa[/quote]

She’s an idiot. We would do best for our country by ignoring her.

I know you’re being sarcastic. I tried hard to find something funny to say, but I couldn’t.


#5

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

The former Republican vice presidential nominee said she plans to write a book, campaign for political candidates from coast to coast…even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence…and build a right-of-center coalition. [/quote]

I think this is a great idea in the abstract - I don’t know that she will be at the vanguard of it. This is coalition needed to govern, and it is a smart one, and I am glad a national figure is seeing it that way - but I am not convinced she can carry the “ball” all the way to the goal line for this coalition, if it develops.

It is also clear she wants to build up her own public support while on this tour and improve her image generally. Not a bad idea.


#6

No, Stoked…

I’m serious when I said it could be “interesting”.

I think a LOT will depend on how the economy is doing by the time 2011-12 rolls around.

If things are still going down the tubes, some type of grass-roots Coalition of Law makers COULD be a possibility.

Mufasa


#7

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Mufasa wrote:

The former Republican vice presidential nominee said she plans to write a book, campaign for political candidates from coast to coast…even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence…and build a right-of-center coalition.

I think this is a great idea in the abstract - I don’t know that she will be at the vanguard of it. This is coalition needed to govern, and it is a smart one, and I am glad a national figure is seeing it that way - but I am not convinced she can carry the “ball” all the way to the goal line for this coalition, if it develops.

It is also clear she wants to build up her own public support while on this tour and improve her image generally. Not a bad idea.[/quote]

Agree…

Could Palin be a leader of such a Coalition?

Again…that would be a tough call.

Mufasa


#8

the concept is interesting, nobodys tried this aproach before, it might fly.


#9

[quote]toejam wrote:
the concept is interesting, nobodys tried this aproach before, it might fly.[/quote]

What makes you think people around the country, Republicans especially, want her campaigning for them?

I posted it on the other thread about the NJ gubernatorial election, one of two going on in the country that Palin’s spokesperson (I think) said that they wanted to influence- The NJ GOP doesn’t want anything to do with her.

I’ve met the guy who commented on it, Jay Webber, a number of times (he’s the state’s GOP chairman) and he said that they have no plans to get her here, because they know Pig showing up in NJ would do an immeasurable amount of damage to the chances of the GOP candidate Chris Christie getting elected.

Honestly, I think it’s a pipe dream of hers that will amount to nothing.


#10

And I do think it’s funny that she’s campaigning for “limited government.” Pig is the same person that raised a massive windfall tax on Alaskan oil companies and then threw it back at the people in the form of a tax rebate.

She gave this 1200 dollars to every man, woman and child in Alaska. So… children were getting tax rebates.

[i]
On September 5th, 2008 Alaska’s Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell announced the $3,269 check that every eligible man, woman and child in Alaska will receive, which includes the $1,200 windfall profit rebate Palin backed and was approved the previous month. Parnell on the $1,200 windfall profit rebate:

“The royalty dollars that flow through the state are the people’s wealth. The $1,200 resource rebate goes to that philosophy.” [2][/i]

http://mccain.voterfactcheck.com/facts/11/palin_windfall_profits_tax_344511.shtml

She sounds like a fucking socialist, if you ask me.


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#12

Oh God, not again…


#13

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

What makes you think people around the country, Republicans especially, want her campaigning for them?
[/quote]

This. She’s damaged goods. If the MSM had done less of a job on her in general AND at the same time been more difficult on Obama, she may have been able to recover from her epic media fails. Not so right now. She’s going to do more damage than help.


#14

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:

What makes you think people around the country, Republicans especially, want her campaigning for them?

This. She’s damaged goods. If the MSM had done less of a job on her in general AND at the same time been more difficult on Obama, she may have been able to recover from her epic media fails. Not so right now. She’s going to do more damage than help.[/quote]

Perhaps, but during the campaign, you had two “firsts” on American History. A black man running for president, and a woman running for VP. With Obama, Lord knows the media went both ways with him. I mean, you had the camp that both praised him for being this great orator and achiever in the midst of adverisity, and you had the other camp which made allegations of questionable known associates, being accused of Muslim and Islam ties, etc. With Palin, there was plenty of negative the media focused on, but not much positive. I remember watching the news during the 08 election, and most if not all of the press on Palin was negative. Every sound bite from her was one showcasing her inability to articulate her opinion clearly and support it intelligently. I am not saying she lacks articulation or intelligence, but the media portrayed that image of her. A dumb ditzy woman who was bubbly and popular, not to mention nice to look at.

This is why, in politics, you have to limit the amount of ammunition the media or your opponent can use against you. Especially for Palin, she is a woman to conquer new ground being the first woman to approach the White House on this level. I think she should have made a better effort to be more informed of the issues, because she is under the most scrutiny. There is an unfair double standard. We all know Joe Biden provides verbal farts on a weekly if not daily basis. But he doesn’t get the shit Palin does because, Joe is Joe, and we all know Joe is going to give us a Bidenism every now and then.

She should have presented a better candidate within herself, and if she isn’t able to, then she is not worthy to run for office. By coming off like the beauty/prom queen early on, I just don’t know if she can shake that image from people, but we will see.


#15

She will be unable to shake free of her catastrophic first impression. No way in hell—barring some sort of “renaissance moment” where she does something unbelievably cool—will she ever do anything but bring out the fringe. Especially with her stepping down from governorship. No way. She doesn’t have a plan.


#16

Not a first: the eminently forgettable Geraldine Ferraro preceded her.


#17

Bill beat me to it. Max, you’d better look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_Ferraro


#18

If what some of you guys are saying is true…that many in the GOP are “running” from Palin…then she will find it tough to build any Coalition.

Also…appealing to the Far Right appears to be NOT be what her Goal is. (I think that Huckabee is the Far Right’s man anyway…). I think that the second she begins to do that, her objectives are dead in the water.

Last note…love her or hate her…there is no way that she won’t be a new’s item, at least initially during the 2012 Election cycle. How effective she will be on a National Level is another story. It becomes difficult to imagine how she will build some National Coalition when she couldn’t build one in her own home State.

Mufasa


#19

I think she both herself had poor judgment and did not have people giving her good advice – and a politician at that level has to get for himself or herself such people – in thinking that giving up the governorship would work out OK and still leave her a major player.

With regard to her having to pay $500K in legal fees against basically harassment suits: While that’s intolerable to have to pay personally, and would be understandable reason to personally want to get out of it, one would think that fundraisers could have taken care of it. Maybe she doesn’t like the idea of getting donations to cover that – I don’t know of her ever trying to get contributors to pay for it – but letting her political enemies drive her out of office via the lawsuits, or the media to do so via the vulture-like coverage, probably in the minds of most disqualifies her from serious consideration. The question of whether she can stand the heat will appear to too many people to now be answered. Personal opinion.


#20

[quote]pushharder wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
And I do think it’s funny that she’s campaigning for “limited government.” Pig is the same person that raised a massive windfall tax on Alaskan oil companies and then threw it back at the people in the form of a tax rebate.

She gave this 1200 dollars to every man, woman and child in Alaska. So… children were getting tax rebates.

[i]
On September 5th, 2008 Alaska’s Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell announced the $3,269 check that every eligible man, woman and child in Alaska will receive, which includes the $1,200 windfall profit rebate Palin backed and was approved the previous month. Parnell on the $1,200 windfall profit rebate:

“The royalty dollars that flow through the state are the people’s wealth. The $1,200 resource rebate goes to that philosophy.” [2][/i]

http://mccain.voterfactcheck.com/facts/11/palin_windfall_profits_tax_344511.shtml

She sounds like a fucking socialist, if you ask me.

You’re are dumber than a sack of rocks if you think Palin started this. Clear back in 1984 when the wife and I lived there and you were a gleam in your daddy’s eye every resident - man, woman, child - got a Permanent Fund check. Do your fuckin homework. It’s an Alaskan institution not a Palin one.

BTW, no state sales or income tax and a dividend check, based in part on OPEC inflated oil prices, to every resident. That’s socialism?

Ignorance reigns supreme here on TN PWI and it’s usually the loudest mouths who are the most ignorant.

Also, the ACES tax hike was first passed by the legislature just like taxes at the federal level.[/quote]

I don’t care who started it. Obama caught shit in the election for mentioning windfall taxes on oil companies… and what could be more socialistic than taking profits from oil companies and giving it back to the people, while your Lt. Gov. calls it “the people’s wealth.”

From that link:

In 2007 Palin pushed for and enacted a major increase in state oil taxes - a step that generated stunning revenues for Alaska as oil prices soared. The Alaska Oil and Gas Association estimates the state collected $6 billion from Palin-imposed windfall taxes during the fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2008.