Before I speak, I must say that I’ve never listened to a full Diddy album, not even No Way Out, but I’ve heard his hits. But it’s hard to say he’s overrated since most everyone I talk to either says “he ruined hip hop” or just “he sucks”.
I don’t really think Diddy was very talented, between his unimaginative use of samples on some songs, and his use of co-producers on the other songs I don’t really see him as being a talented producer. And as for rapping, Diddy sounded like a producer.
That being said I think he was important in so far as who he associated himself with. Biggie may very well be the most talented rapper ever IMHO, and Mase was very good and underrated [based on Harlem World, haven’t heard his other stuff]. Diddy comes from an A&R background anyway, so if you judge him on that he did pretty well with those two. Scouting people with talent, and developing them into well rounded artists is a talent if you do it well. Some very well rounded albums came out of that label [Well, 3 by my count, but I haven’t heard enough] in the mid to late 90s and I’d assume Diddy had something do do with the final version of those records as executive producer.
So basically what I’m saying is, judge him less as an artist and more as an executive producer, A&R guy, and record label head. He looks a lot better that way. It’s kind of like DJ Drama, no real musical talent that we know of, but still an important and overall good thing to hip hop.
As for the issue of what happened to the direction of hip hop after Bad Boy Records broke big and the whole thing about pop rap taking over. Anyone familiar with what I post here about hip hop could probably guess that I think that it’s irrelevant at best and elitist tripe from amateur critics at worst.
I don’t even consider P.Diddy relevant to hip-hop anymore…I respect him more as an entrepreneur with his business pursuits.
Bab Boy South has a couple of artists in Yung Joc and Gorilla Zoe that are sort’ve popular. However, I don’t know how big they are in the south since I’m posting from Toronto :S. I guess it counts for something, though. But I think you know more than me about this shit :D.
EDIT: Wol, why’d you change your avy so soon? Say goodbye to your profile views most of them were from me I think. [/quote]
Oh yeah…they are popular. Gorilla Zoe also came from Boyz N Da Hood…which gave us Young Jeezy…and Jodi Breeze(who’s more of a local hit of ATL…hasn’t hit big yet,but talented).
I referenced The LOX earlier about not staying with Bad Boy…yet I just read that they are going back to Bad Boy…wow.
Anyways,good post…pretty much had my line of thought,just with more detail.