I have been taking 2000 iu 50 mcg of vit D3 for over a year. Should i up to 5000?
That’s a really low dosage Vit D, I’m taking 125 mcg or 5000ui of Vit D because mine was on the lower end.
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That Vit D test is for D 25 OH. It’s the standard test, and doesn’t actually tell you anything. It is less useful than the TSH number by a considerable margin. If you knew your D 1,25 then a conclusion might be possible from the number. As it is, it doesn’t really mean much of anything. Your TSH should be elevated if your T3 and T4 are a little low. That’s how it works, your pituitary signals to up production. There are a lot of reasons for that to be the case and be just fine in the short term.
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5k is the normal dose for guys like us with low. I still haven’t gotten mine up with 5. I’m about to ask doc if I should try 10 for a few weeks.
You should be wondering where it’s going
What could be the issue I’m not versed in vitamin d at all.
There are plenty of reasons for low D, lack of direct exposure to sunlight is the favourite assumed culprit. It plays a role in testosterone production among other things. If you are on TRT, it isn’t getting used there. The standard test is only checking the inert form, it’s like T4 - it’s your wharehouse of raw material waiting for the factory to need it somewhere. Almost uniformly the medical profession simply recommends supplementing in the event of a deficiency. That’s the sick care that @systemlord is always complaining about. They are treating a symptom blindly. Personally, I cannot supplement it. Makes me sick as hell in pill or drop form.
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Thats the thing with me. I work outside so I get plenty of sun at least 8 or so months out of the year. I have only ever had it tested in the winter though.
The thing that baffles me about it all is both urologists acted as if I should not be on trt at all. This last Dr said the anxiety is probably because you dont need to be on trt. He said I’m not convinced you have low T thats when he said he was going to have me consult with his partner because he specialized in trt. He said “it just isn’t adding up for me maybe he can see something I’m not”. Wtf doesn’t add up? 288 or whatever is absolutely on the low side. I am in pretty good shape. 5’9” 190 32” waist. Idk what my body fat % is but its not super high. I look pretty young for my age also. So is this what they are basing it off of. Because I am built and look good for my age? I mean It doesn’t really matter how a person looks the damn numbers don’t lie. 288 is fucking low. I have been dealing with ED for about 3 years. Fatigue and trouble losing the little bit of belly fat i have which on the diet I consume and the workout routine I live by I should Have no trouble. And I have belly fat that I cannot shed. I have never taken any form of sarms or steroids or any supplement besides creatine, bcaas and whey. I feel like they think I have been using steroids. The first doctor asked me 4 or 5 times if I ever used anything that would of caused it.
It builds up over the summer. I ALWAYS had a top of the range or above range Vitamin D no matter the month. Then I didn’t. I had hyperparathyroid hyperplasia, but almost a year and a half post surgery I still have below range or barely in range D, and I live in Central America these days and spend a good 6 or more hours a day outside and never use block or a hat. I think that the Vit D problem is not what they say.
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Are my initial labs too good to be on trt and thats what they are going off of? Those were a year ago and obviously much different numbers than the recent ones. I don’t understand how with the most recent numbers he can say im not low T. Now not needing trt is a totally different thing. Maybe theres a root cause of the drop i dont know but i think theres no argument that the total testosterone level is low now. It also coincides with the lack of sex drive and E.D. This most recent doctor said well ed can be just that. Ed. It doesn’t necessarily mean your testosterone is low. He wanted to prescribe viagra or something like it and i informed him that i have no use for it being single. Its pretty tough to start dating with E.D. Almost feels hopeless at times.
Your initial labs have nothing to do with anything at this point. That being said, you had options for trying to raise your T naturally. You still do. Google it. Your numbers do suck currently, and you need to do something. The androgel use is causing an unnaturally low number at the moment while you wait for natural production to kick back in fully. Look up PCT. Don’t do anything if you want your numbers to stay low for your next appointment. Talk to the doctor about fixing the problem. If the doc thinks you are trying to be healthy you will get more cooperation, if the doc thinks that you are looking for a legal source to juice you won’t get much help.
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Thats what i dont understand. I do everything that should promote high levels. I workout hard and heavy. Squats deadlifts bench press i eat 200 grams of protein a day get healthy carbs from rice and sweet potatoes whole wheat bread. Eggs daily. Healthy fats avocado almond butter. I take vit D clearly not enough im learning. I try to sleep 8 hours typically its 6-7 No matter when i go to sleep its all i can stay asleep for. I really dont have a lot of stress at all. No female drama i have plenty of money bills paid. So stress isn’t a factor. I tried zma supplements but it made me have crazy dreams and feel weird when i woke up so i quit taking those. Hell i even changed my deodorant and made sure my shampoo didnt have any type of estrogen promoting chemicals in it. I have read up on pct. do you think i need them? I havent taken any androgel since march 14th. The ups and downs quit a couple weeks ago. The anxiety and panic attacks are completely gone. How long does it typically take for natural test to start producing again. I was only on the gel for 2 months total.
Your Feb 1 2018 blood test had your Free T at 129 (range 48-169) you are above mid range.
That is why you are built and why you can stay trim with no skinny fat.
Your latest test has you at 288 but that blood test top of range is only 740. So you can’t use the normal LabCorp TT ranges that everyone here talks about. If you did a labcorp TT test you’d be about 400.
You have low TT but what you feel is free T. Your SHGB must be very low to have such hi FT with low TT. None of your T is getting boundup by your shgb.
Your TT number will get you in to just about any T mill/ T clinic the question is at 32 do you want to take shots the rest of your life. TRT is not cheap. Just food for thought.
I would look into a good therapist for your anxiety. He/she will help you get to bottom of why you are getting anxious.
I had anxiety when i was younger from about 17-20 i started drinking heavily and that pretty much took care of itself. Quit drinking heavily 10 years ago and still no sign of anxiety until this recent bout of it. Im actually 39 will be 40 in 6 months. If i was 32 i would definitely be looking for the root cause really hard. Not that I dont plan on it now but 32 is very young.
Sorry I miss read that about your age. It is still something to think about. Your numbers aren’t bad for ~40. A second option that would be much cheaper would be to look into running a cycle and staying natty. This is not the forum to talk about cycling go over to the pharma forum and do a bit of reading. We’ve got some pretty smart guys over there willing to offer suggestions and guidance.
I offer this because there is a shit load side effect you’ll have to deal with when you replace your natural T with a synthetic. IMO you should only go the TRT route if you absolutely have to.
I also use whiskey to deal with anxiety. I’m not proud of it but benzo’s are the only thing that works and I am more affraid of becoming addicted to them. I have alwys been able to stop drinking sometime for more than a year. However when my anxiety raises its fat ugly head WT 101 here I come.
My main concern is really the ed. I dont care about getting bigger. Well that and figuring out why my levels would drop 200 in a year. Something has to be going on. I was definitely seeing benefits on the gel. I was starting to have morning wood and like the real kind not the half ass shit i get maybe 2 times a month now. Also noticing females everywhere which seems to not really be a focus often for me much anymore.
Yeah i got some xans for it but i only took 3 on the really really bad days. For the Same reason i dont want to be addicted to anything. He prescribed a ssri also and i never even filled it. Something that causes my very problem i want nothing to do with and also i hate pills but also love them so i stay away. I had a couple of bad car accidents and they were bad enough for extended periods of pain killers so i know what they can do.
You have to be careful when you first start TRT. We have this thing call the honeymoon phase. It will turn you into a 20 year old for a period of time. But then one day it’s just gone and men spend thousands of dollars trying to get it back. For a week I could not go to the grocery store I could not stop looking all every woman’s breast
Your 200 could have been a lab error. You could have worked a crap load of OT the week before your blood draw. We burn natural T all day long. Morning you are peaking evens you could be down 200 no problem.
Do you live in the US? Can you afford a proper mens hormone/general health blood test from a LabCorp?