yea, this is funny. the day he registers he posts his muscle+fitness workout on here, doesnt like the response he gets from it, and immediately posts some whining crybaby bullshit. too fucking funny.
my suggestion:
either post some pics of yourself looking big and shredded, or go ahead and create another T-Nation account and post with a new name, because after whining the very same day you registered, no ones going to take you seriously. i mean for real, how are you going to post and ask people’s advice, and then whine about it? i would venture to say that i am not the only person on this site that started off doing those M+F workouts, they are really convincing when they put pictures of Gunter in there and say here, this is what he does to get big. but then when you come here and see all of the posts where people are talking about Chad Waterbury this and Christian Thibaudeau that, ranting about what wonders these coachs’, and others’, programs have done in their quest for size and strength–then you whine about the response that they give you? you act like they were intentionally giving you bad advice or something. wake up man, the only reason people are so quick to tell you you are overtraining is most likely because they did the same bullshit routine that you are doing a while back and they know that it didnt give them 10% of the gains that they have made using the programs here.
and i dont see how you immediately start a new thread defending your “high intensity, high volume” workout- which doesnt make sense but ill cover that in a minute- but how are you going to defend how it works for some people, as if it works for you? if it worked so well for you then why the hell would you post asking people to critique it? dipshit.
“high intesity, high volume”
intensity generally refers to % of your 1RM, so if you are working “high intensity” you’re working in a with loads that are i dunno, 75-80% of your 1RM. these are loads that you obviously can’t sit there and crank out your 12-10-8 bullshit with. please challenge me here. show me someone doing a high volume routine, consistently using 75-80% of their 1RM, and ill show you someone that 1) doesnt know their 1RM, 2)has very shitty form and should get a bed ready for themselves at the local ER, 3) is an idiot, 4) needs to be choked- and im talking bitch style like in FMJacket.
volume-
high volume would be something like the bullshit routine that you posted. you had a rep scheme of something like 12-10-8-6 if i remember that correctly, on some days 5 different exercises. 5x[4x(12+10+8+6)]= 720= tool. wait a minute, what am i thinking? someone that does 720 reps per workout, with 75-80% of their 1RM, is nothing short of amazing, and im very sorry to have made any statements that implied or suggested otherwise in any way, shape or form.
oh my god that was fun, thank you.
closing note: as for the proven scientific evidence for workouts and such: everyone’s body is different, in the length of certain bones, connective tissue, muscle origins/insertions, muscle fiber makeups, etc. the fact that something has significant scientific evidence is bullshit. the only proof we can ever count on in this game is looking right back at us in the mirror.