Overtraining and Insomnia

I did olympic weightliting for 6 years, had a decent result 130 snatch 160 c and j at 90 kg bodyweight.

Trained for that time without problems 5-6 times a week doing a program resembeling somewhat the russian system to describe it in a few words.

Then i tried a bulgarian-ish style training program. After only 2 weeks of doing that i was unable to sleep on the heavy days. Did that for a total of a month then took a break for a month.

When i tried to come back any more intense activity i tried to do would prevent me from sleeping, meaning i sometimes couldnt even fall asleep all night, other times I needen 2-3 hours to fall asleep and then the sleep was shallow and full of dreams and woke up freequently. Resting heart rate was up, my normal resting heart rate before that was around 75 bps, after this promblem began it was up to 90, 95. Blood preasure was normal, blood markers were normal. Went to a doctor after checking my blood they did recoment taking anti inflamatory’s which did help to some extent but mainly proved insuficient and only helped for the moment. But apart from that they didnt send me to any further tests and did nothing else to help.

When i quit all intense activity the problem was better, but immediatly after lifting anything or even running or being mentaly aroused(like worries or anxiety) the problem of not being able to sleep was back for a while until the stressor was again removed. Being tired from intense activity would prevent me from sleeping but very low intensity activity like walking for a long period or low intensity work.

Initialy i thought it was some sort of overtraining, but my lifts progresed during that entire time and i didnt experience any sort of decline in performance. I thought it would go away after a while not it has been more that a year and a half since i had to stop lifting. And even now when i do any activity that’s more intense than walking up a hill I can’t fall a sleep and it doesnt appear to be getting any better by waiting, resting and doing low intensity activity like walking.

When unable to sleep i have an elevated heart rate, feel hyper-cant stop thinking, sometimes feel hot. What i find helps is a cold shower of bath to calm down or taking anti inflamatory pills, only helps for the moment and even that is sometimes like a drop in an ocean.

Anyone with any advice would greatly appreciate it.

How old are you and what’s your diet like?

I had a lot of problems like you describe in my late 20s - early 30s, when I was trying to eat “clean” and wasn’t getting enough fats in my diet. Or just unde-reating in general, for too long.

Hi i am 23 now my diet was always to gain weight because im more towards the ectomorph side of the spectrum. I never stressed about eating so i guess i was ussualy on about 3000 cal/ day, making sure i was eating enough protein (about 180g per day, 90kg bw) and not eating junk but not stressing about the amount of carbs and fats. So i guess it was quite balanced. Also i think i got enough fruits and veggies as well. For this particular issue i also read somewhere with all these symptomes that vitamin b i think was important so i get that to.

Thanks for the tip about fats ill think that over but i think i get enough of that.

Have you tried centering your carb intake around sleep schedule?

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Talk to me about your caffeine intake

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Almost zero

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no thank you for the suggestion

Why almost? What amount of caffeine do you consume and when?

That said, if you aren’t heavily consuming caffeine (I’m also assume you aren’t an amphetamine addict), it is 100% worth seeing a physician to get a sleep study done

I did olympic weightliting for 6 years, had a decent result 130 snatch 160 c and j at 90 kg bodyweight.

Trained for that time without problems 5-6 times a week doing a program resembeling somewhat the russian system to describe it in a few words.

Then i tried a bulgarian-ish style training program. After only 2 weeks of doing that i was unable to sleep on the heavy days. Did that for a total of a month then took a break for a month.

When i tried to come back any more intense activity i tried to do would prevent me from sleeping, meaning i sometimes couldnt even fall asleep all night, other times I needen 2-3 hours to fall asleep and then the sleep was shallow and full of dreams and woke up freequently. Resting heart rate was up, my normal resting heart rate before that was around 75 bps, after this promblem began it was up to 90, 95. Blood preasure was normal, blood markers were normal. Went to a doctor after checking my blood they did recoment taking anti inflamatory’s which did help to some extent but mainly proved insuficient and only helped for the moment. But apart from that they didnt send me to any further tests and did nothing else to help.

When i quit all intense activity the problem was better, but immediatly after lifting anything or even running or being mentaly aroused(like worries or anxiety) the problem of not being able to sleep was back for a while until the stressor was again removed. Being tired from intense activity would prevent me from sleeping but very low intensity activity like walking for a long period or low intensity work.

Initialy i thought it was some sort of overtraining, but my lifts progresed during that entire time and i didnt experience any sort of decline in performance. I thought it would go away after a while not it has been more that a year and a half since i had to stop lifting. And even now when i do any activity that’s more intense than walking up a hill I can’t fall a sleep and it doesnt appear to be getting any better by waiting, resting and doing low intensity activity like walking.

When unable to sleep i have an elevated heart rate, feel hyper-cant stop thinking, sometimes feel hot. What i find helps is a cold shower of bath to calm down or taking anti inflamatory pills, only helps for the moment and even that is sometimes like a drop in an ocean.

Anyone with any advice would greatly appreciate it.

This doesn’t sound like overtraining whatsoever. Sounds like some kind of insomnia or health problem that you should discuss with your doctor or a sleep specialist, not random people on a forum.

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on aveerage 1-2 coffes a week, no never took any kind of drugs. I guess the sleep specialist is a good option for sure

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like i mentioned i went to the doctor for this, actually discused this with 2 different doctors, none of them thought it was a serious healt issue. The sleep specialist is a good option to try next.

Sorry to hear that bro. I having the same issue for 7 years, and maybe longer in smaller amount.
I tried everything, from stretching, massage, better diet, suplements to muscle imbalance program.
Core problem of your condition is mental stress and repressed emotion. Your body and mind are in a constant survival mode. Youre body cannot heal and your training is just making it worse. When you find your inner peace, your body will lead your mind. Believe me, there is no other solution. If you ignore those fact, thing will be worse, and you will get in more problems (like me). I have severe back pain and needed to stop training. Sleep is essential for recovery and well being. Sport is a sort of stress for CNS, like all other mental stresses so you keep building it trought the time. Hope this is helpful. Cheers.

Although I agree that mental health, sleep and nutrition are important, how were you able to make this assertion without more information about OP?