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Out of Context?

I think we are going to see this type of change a lot more in the coming years.

Brave lady, well spoken.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Brave lady,[/quote]

This.

Hey beans, I know you like to post all sorts of shit on your Facebook page, would a story about a California governor holding schools hostage to pass tax increases interest you ? (not trying to hijack)

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Hey beans, I know you like to post all sorts of shit on your Facebook page, would a story about a California governor holding schools hostage to pass tax increases interest you ? (not trying to hijack)[/quote]

Not today, but I may come back to this. California is my go to “look at how bad it can get”.

I have plenty for you cousin, let me know.

Some other floating ideas…

  • Having government manage private sector worker Unions.

  • “The vehicle miles traveled tax”, where you are taxes 10 cents per mile you drive. The government would put a GPS on your car and monitor how much you drive, where you go, etc.

  • Letting individual cities raise taxes (should state taxes fail).

  • 1/3 of all energy sources coming from renewable energy (from our Global Warming law). Energy costs have already gone up by 20%.

  • The age for child car seats being raised from age 5 to 8 yrs old. Imagine an 8 yr old in a child car seat.

The list is long and painful to look at.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

  • The age for child car seats being raised from age 5 to 8 yrs old. Imagine an 8 yr old in a child car seat.

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This one is happening nationwide and it doesn’t mean the 8 year old is in a traditional car seat. They are to use some type of high back booster or a regular booster so the shoulder belt rides across their chest instead of their neck (not pretty in an accident).

But the other stuff you posted is just an example of how horrible things could be. We were looking at buying in on my wifes grandparents cabin up near Tahoe, but now you couldn’t pay me to put a residence there.

I find it amusing people love to bash Cali. Especially one that have never been there. Cali is a huge densely populated paradise with a lot of problems In RE: logistics

Ms. Moncreif is a very impressive young lady, I can understand why if what she says is the truth, that the majority of the people would not believe her. I would think voter fraud would be easy to prove ?

I wonder what specifically she sites as the Socialism in Acorn and Obama ?

I know there have been claims of Obama being a socialist. But those voices have been competing with voices of “Obama was born in Kenya”.

And the evidence the so called conservatives have put out was easy to refute because it was the same policy the Republicans espoused just a couple election cycles prior

how is she impressive?

she was fired from project vote for embezzling money…

She obviously was pissed off about that…So now she is getting paid by the conservative lobby groups to smear ACORN and project vote…

it is very possible that these organizations are filled with fraud…lots of organizations like that are terrible…but, this women is a crook and will do anything to make money…

she isn’t impressive…she is a pig…

[quote]D Public wrote:
how is she impressive?

she was fired from project vote for embezzling money…

She obviously was pissed off about that…So now she is getting paid by the conservative lobby groups to smear ACORN and project vote…

it is very possible that these organizations are filled with fraud…lots of organizations like that are terrible…but, this women is a crook and will do anything to make money…

she isn’t impressive…she is a pig…
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Interesting story and feasible as well. She is a very well spoken person

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I find it amusing people love to bash Cali. Especially one that have never been there. Cali is a huge densely populated paradise with a lot of problems In RE: logistics[/quote]

Not sure who you’re directing this at.

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@ inquisition . Cali is a great state . If some one wants to compare it to South Dakota .It would be like comparing apples and oranges

[quote]D Public wrote:
how is she impressive?

she was fired from project vote for embezzling money…[/quote]

Not a single headline about her prosecution or charges being filed.

For those of us who can think critical, I would imagine that speaking out against the great leftest machine would cause them to try and discredit your name no?

[quote]She obviously was pissed off about that…So now she is getting paid by the conservative lobby groups to smear ACORN and project vote…

it is very possible that these organizations are filled with fraud…lots of organizations like that are terrible…but, this women is a crook and will do anything to make money…[/quote]

Or just maybe, she is being honest?

I mean imagine that. Someone who is poor, grew up poor, went to school to get a job to help poor people is now trying to help poor people after finding out the people she was working for were actually cheating?

[quote]she isn’t impressive…she is a pig…
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Nice to see your rebuttal includes a personal attack about her weight. Classy.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@ inquisition . [/quote]

WTF?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I wonder what specifically she sites as the Socialism in Acorn and Obama ?

I know there have been claims of Obama being a socialist. But those voices have been competing with voices of “Obama was born in Kenya”. [/quote]

I am sure you can look into her further and find out the answer to the first question.

As to the second… It is unfortunate that people can’t get over the whole “birther” thing, yes, but that doesn’t make the other criticism invalid.

You really have to take the whole of his situation into account, and then combine it with this just being his first term, and well you can connect the dots if you so choose.

Some people want to be blind to it, others are too dumb to see it, and then their are misguided souls that don’t like freedom and welcome it.

If you are talking about the AHA, well there are differences between the state level plan, and the federal level plan, mainly being one is at the state level, and people can move out of a state.

But AHA hits on a sour note, it plays on your morality. Giving care to per-existing conditions is what we should do because of the poor sick people right? Yes, yes it is. But it puts insurance companies at a massive loss for having to do so. This will require an increase in premiums to cover. So, in effect it socializes the costs and privatizes the profits. Hospitals and insurance companies don’t get stiffed on the bills the person couldn’t pay, and the rest of the populous covers the short fall of the added costs.

So Obama kills three birds with one stone. He lines the pockets of the lobbyists that are going to pay for his reelection, looks like a god damn saint and a hero to those who can’t do math because of the moral aspect, and gives the government more control. (Along with that control comes more costs, which means more debt, which means more taxes, which means more government control.)

Obama is a brilliant and very educated man. His plans have been forming for years, bounced off some of the brightest minds in leftest circles, and executed with a precision and charm unmatched in the last 80 years or so.

Anyway…

This is where I was really going with this thread, but you could put a couple different dogs on his legs.

What I’m getting at is, when we are fed what the context is, how do we know when a speech is taken out of it?

Obama has clearly incited class warfare, government’s oldest trick to control the masses. Look at the “you didn’t build that” speech as a prime example. It is fucking brilliant in its beauty. So complex and subtle, yet so simple at the same time.

The dude is one of the smartest people on Earth. Or at least one of the best educated and aware people who is very good at planning.