[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
It’s being reported as a serious remark in the conservative media, not just the mainstream press, which I hardly even read these days.[/quote]
I know - but DeLay’s remarks were dripping with sarcasm. There are more than just the left inside the Beltway that want DeLay gone. Re-read the remarks, and look for the sarcasm. It’s there.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
It’s being reported as a serious remark in the conservative media, not just the mainstream press, which I hardly even read these days.
You guys sure are very proud not to read the “mainstream” press.
Hell, Bush was very proud to mention he didn’t read any papers at all. Since he was unaware about the Katrina disaster for several days, we now know he doesn’t look at the news on TV either.
And neither did what’s his name, the guy doing one heckuva job.
I’m not suprised he didn’t boast about that recently though.
Doesn’t it just bring a tear to your eyes when you realise you’re better informed reading the papers, watching the news than the leader of the greatest nation on earth?[/quote]
I don’t go in for Fox News and their propaganda either, but there’s something to be said for avoiding places (the New York Times comes to mind) where the news coverage is more slanted than some papers’ editorial pages.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Do you miss Ronald Reagan as much as I do?
It’s Clinton you should be missing. Remember the good ol’ days when all you had to worry about where the stains on a blue dress? When the econmy was up? when there was a surplus? when the US was leading the UN? and you had allies all over the world?
Remember that?[/quote]
Sure I do. The days of slashed defense budgets (begun by Dick Cheney in '91, to be fair), of jetting around the globe for photo-ops with Yasser Arafat instead of serious attempts at problem-solving, of lobbing a few cruise missiles at factories in Sudan after Osama Bin Laden declared war on the U.S., the days of completely ignoring outright genocide in Rwanda (it merited a single paragraph in the doorstop “My Life”). Those sure were great days.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Marmadogg wrote:
Written like a true right wingnut.
Ronnie Earle has indicted more than twice as many Democratic office holders Republican office holders.
Yes, but the dems he indicted - i.e. Jim Maddox (sp?) - were all ideologically opposed to Earle and his way-left fanaticism. You have to remember that up until 15 - 20 years ago, there were no republicans in Texas politics. I exaggerate, but not by very much.
You prove your ignorance of the sunject by automatically pulling out the partisan bullshit. No one but the leftest of lefties will give ronnie Earle any credit. Go see what Jim Maddox has to say about the Travis Co. DA.
The only people calling this guy a hack are those with an ax to grind.
You really shouldn’t post out of utter partisan ignorance. It’s not becoming at all. But you are getting good at that.
The bottom line is Texas really has only 1 law regarding politics…no corporate money can be collected to support a candidate. The gerrymandering in Texas could have been accomplished without breaking this rule. Arrogance comes before a fall and the right wingnuts are getting dropped on their heads as a result.
Read the indictment. Show me where it states that DeLay did any of those things. I have a hint so you won;t wste a whole lot of time - the indictment doesn’t say any of that. In fact there is not even a list of charges in the indictment.
Delay and Frist only make the GOP weaker. The sooner they are replaced by real conservative fiscally responsible Republicans the better.
I might agree with you about Frist - he’s a pussy in my book, but Delay is the one that pushed Bush’s agenda through in his first term. The left won;t go after people that make the right weaker - that just has no logic to it at all. The left is targeting the effective ones. The left can’t win at the ballot box, and they’ll sson see that they need more than trumped up charges to win in the courtroom.
The only reason Earle went on this witch hunt in the first place is because his far left-wing fuck buddy, Martin Frost, got gerrymandered out of a job.
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I agree that Frist is a pussy, but a chickenhawk who sat out Vietnam with student deferments, even after getting kicked out of Baylor, then allegedly (granted, according to the left-wing Houston Press and Molly Ivins) said in 1992 he couldn’t make it into Vietnam because so many poor minority ghetto youth had volunteered for well-paying military jobs that there was no room for patriots like him, doesn’t qualify as a tough guy to me.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Do you miss Ronald Reagan as much as I do?
It’s Clinton you should be missing. Remember the good ol’ days when all you had to worry about where the stains on a blue dress? When the econmy was up? when there was a surplus? when the US was leading the UN? and you had allies all over the world?
Remember that?
Sure I do. The days of slashed defense budgets (begun by Dick Cheney in '91, to be fair), of jetting around the globe for photo-ops with Yasser Arafat instead of serious attempts at problem-solving, of lobbing a few cruise missiles at factories in Sudan after Osama Bin Laden declared war on the U.S., the days of completely ignoring outright genocide in Rwanda (it merited a single paragraph in the doorstop “My Life”). Those sure were great days.[/quote]
You’re right, but compare his disasters to Dubious’s.
Compare his stained dress with the Iraq mess-up where tens of thousands of people died. Compare his photo-op with Arafat with the “mission accomplished” disaster on the Lincoln, and the “bring it on” comment.
And since you’re so worreid about the genocide in Rwanda, I just KNOW you’re all over Dubious over the Sudan situation right?
Naah, didn’t think so.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
I agree that Frist is a pussy, but a chickenhawk who sat out Vietnam with student deferments, even after getting kicked out of Baylor, then allegedly (granted, according to the left-wing Houston Press and Molly Ivins) said in 1992 he couldn’t make it into Vietnam because so many poor minority ghetto youth had volunteered for well-paying military jobs that there was no room for patriots like him, doesn’t qualify as a tough guy to me.[/quote]
Hey, don’t put the bar that high or you’re stuck with Mc Cain and/or Powell.
Im a moderate, and I’ll keep it brief. Until my fellow republicans stop trying to police the world and take care of the less fortunate at home, and seperate church from state, and quit gettin their panties all tied up in a knot with rowe vs wade, I will vote democrat. I voted for Gore and Kerry, and that was about as easy as getting a prostate exam.
I want a good republican in office as much as the rest of you guys do.
I would of voted for mc cain but when they fanaggled gdub in there it turned me against them.condi aint got it either.whatever happened to that starr ,bet they wish they had that 52 mill. they spent on that blow job, back now.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
I agree that Frist is a pussy, but a chickenhawk who sat out Vietnam with student deferments, even after getting kicked out of Baylor, then allegedly (granted, according to the left-wing Houston Press and Molly Ivins) said in 1992 he couldn’t make it into Vietnam because so many poor minority ghetto youth had volunteered for well-paying military jobs that there was no room for patriots like him, doesn’t qualify as a tough guy to me.
Hey, don’t put the bar that high or you’re stuck with Mc Cain and/or Powell.[/quote]
Is that a bad thing?
McCain/Powell - there’s an interesting choice. I think next election I’ll vote libertarian. Yeah, it’s a vote thrown away, but…
Very much disaffected. Republicans should stick to lowering taxes, privatizing Social Security, and expanding free trade. Leave people’s religion and personal lives to themselves.
Interestingly, I came across a site for a “branch” of the Republican party that calls themselves Republicans for personal freedom, or something like that.
[quote]Velvet Revolver wrote:
Im a moderate, and I’ll keep it brief. Until my fellow republicans stop trying to police the world and take care of the less fortunate at home, and seperate church from state, and quit gettin their panties all tied up in a knot with rowe vs wade, I will vote democrat. I voted for Gore and Kerry, and that was about as easy as getting a prostate exam.
I want a good republican in office as much as the rest of you guys do. [/quote]
Sir, from what you said, you have no idea what a “good republican” is.
The only panties bunched up here are the ones next to my bed, and she can put them anyplace she pleases.
McCain is also the one who was (and is) behind the big push to stop UFC style fighting in the US. He is in the hip pocket of the Boxing Commssion.
I never saw McCain as the great republican savior that some of you seem to think he is. Look at his ineffective campaign finance reform act. That was very much misguided.
I don’t want to see McCain anywhere near the republican ticket in 08!
McCain is a shining example of a moderate Democrat. He should just switch parties. Heck - he spends most of his time on the left side of aisle anyway.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
I agree that Frist is a pussy, but a chickenhawk who sat out Vietnam with student deferments, even after getting kicked out of Baylor, then allegedly (granted, according to the left-wing Houston Press and Molly Ivins) said in 1992 he couldn’t make it into Vietnam because so many poor minority ghetto youth had volunteered for well-paying military jobs that there was no room for patriots like him, doesn’t qualify as a tough guy to me.
Hey, don’t put the bar that high or you’re stuck with Mc Cain and/or Powell.
Is that a bad thing?[/quote]
Between the two of them they would never make a decision. Good or Bad.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
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I never saw McCain as the great republican savior that some of you seem to think he is. Look at his ineffective campaign finance reform act. That was very much misguided.
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I put his campaign finanace reform law more into harmful than ineffective.
More money than ever is going into politics and the new law gave rise to irresponsible groups like moveon and swiftboats. These groups are built just to destroy the candidate they don’t like.
McCain might be loved by the media but I don’t like his actions.
Can anyone name anything good McCain has done in the political arena? Maybe this question is unfair because it seems no one does any good in politics.
Not sure why so many people are enamoured with Colin Powell. Sure he is better than most of the Democrats, but if Bush’s father didn’t listen to him and we deposed Saddam in 1991 we would not be in the mess we are today.
MoveOn = Smear Boat Liars
Love it!
ROTFLMFAO!!!
this thread started out so good, I thought we might actually get to hear what some other people would like to see happen, instead it turns into this crap again. Don’t any of you get tired of arguing over these stupid issues… “yes he did” no he didn’t, Yes he did, No he didn’t. It is like a bunch of bratty kids.
I’m not happy with Bush, guess what, he is out of office next time, get over it. I’d like to hear what some others would like to see happen.
Me, I’d like to see spending hold steady or decrease for the next few decades. Then start to get the government out of our lives.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Can anyone name anything good McCain has done in the political arena?
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He’s trying to outlaw those evil supplements. Oh, wait…
At a younger age I was more willing to define myself by party label, feeling a bit rah-rah about it, almost like cheering for your favorite football team. Maybe I just liked taking a side in a debate and chose the party with whom I agreed on more of the issues. The problem is, as I’ve come to realize, that I don’t agree with them on ALL the issues. And a political party is merely a funding and promotional mechanism to get politicians into power and keep them there – it has nothing to do with my own good, or your own good or the country’s own good. Do I vote Republican? Yeah, almost all the time, because I agree with them MORE than the other party, and they usually appear to be the lesser of two evils.
But am I going to go into knee-jerk defense mode every time a Republican politician (and from a character standpoint most politicians are all equally suspect in my eyes) fucks up or commits some slimy act, like DeLay likely did, or like Trent Lott, that pompous closet racist windbag, when he got his ass handed to him a little while back? Hell no. I’m not here to carry the banner for anyone’s artificial vehicle that merely serves their interests in attaining power/funding/votes (i.e. a political party) just for the sake of saying that I can be defined by this party’s platform or that party’s platform – I can’t be.
Call me a moderate/libertarian Republican, if you will. I just WISH the Republicans would nominate someone who:
Is truly fiscally conservative (keep taxes low and actually control spending).
Is truly pro-free trade (not enacting bullshit tariffs like the steel tariff Bush enacted, making third-world nations understandably hate us for not playing fair).
Is strong-minded and stiff-spined enough to stay on the offense in the war against Islamic extremists – yes the Iraq war was a HUGE fuckup, but the only way out of this mess is to win it, and win it in strong fashion. Get real – committ the resources that are needed. Oh, and KILL Bin Laden NOW, please. (Thank you).
Has a real, ballsy long-term approach not just to short-term gas prices, but to our overall energy policy. YES, we need to drill in Anwar – that’s a no-brainer. But we ALSO need to accelerate the development of whatever else can be used (hydrogen, ethanol . . . whatever looks promising).
Is NOT some Bible-thumping fundi-Christian. Nothing against Christians, but that’s there business. DON’T try to legislate morality; leave everyone the fuck alone.
On that note, stop trying to accomplish the fucking outlawing of abortion. At LEAST half the country doesn’t agree with outlawing it, so even if you do, and you somehow pulled enough strings and jumped through enough hoops to pull it off, there would be a national fucking uprising. I’m not pro-abortion by any means, but if YOU think it’s wrong, DON’T HAVE one. If you think it’s murder/a sin, etc., let those who commit it deal with that and let God sort 'em out.
STOP trying to keep grown adults from doing whatever the hell they want on their own time, as long as it’s not harmful to children or anyone else. If grown adults want to watch porn, fine. If two guys, or two girls, want to get naked and do wild, wacky things with each other, that’s their business. Why would I give a damn? If a gay couple wants to get married, why deny them the same happiness in life that straight couples are allowed, merely because they are the way they are? Is it gonna’ somehow affect YOUR marriage, and screw up YOUR OWN family life because two chicks down the road decided to live together forever? Get real.
Stop picking fights over frivilous bullshit like posting the 10 Commandments in schools, or saying “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, or wanting to cover up statues with nude female busts in government buildings. If someone wants to believe in and live by the 10 Commandments, and believe in God, great. Let them do so on their own time and in their own way. This is not a theocracy – don’t force it down other people’s throats. Like I said, if you’re right, God will sort 'em out. Oh, and no one ever turned to stone merely for having seen a nude female bust carved in stone.
Must be able to SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY, represent our nation well with his/her words and be able to carry on an intelligent, educated, in-depth debate without stammering out the few words that his/her little pea-brain can remember, or that were taught by their handlers, such as “freedom, values, tough going.”
Is all that too much to ask? (Sheesh)!
[quote]Todd S. wrote:
this thread started out so good, I thought we might actually get to hear what some other people would like to see happen, instead it turns into this crap again. Don’t any of you get tired of arguing over these stupid issues… “yes he did” no he didn’t, Yes he did, No he didn’t. It is like a bunch of bratty kids. [/quote]
This is the nature of politics.
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I’m not happy with Bush, guess what, he is out of office next time, get over it. I’d like to hear what some others would like to see happen.
Me, I’d like to see spending hold steady or decrease for the next few decades. Then start to get the government out of our lives. [/quote]
Spending will continue to rise. It is a question of slowing the rate of increase. I cannot imagine true spending cuts.