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Option 1 or 2? First Cycle Help!

Hey Guys,

I’m 29 years old and I’ve been training for 15 years now. I’m 5’-9" and about 195 lbs. BF is less than 10% (estimate). I’ve never taken any gear before but I’m thinking of running a cycle with a goal of gaining about 15 lbs.

Let me know if you agree with option #1 or #2

OPTION #1
Week 1 to 10 - 500 mg Test E/week.
Week 1 to 10 - 1 mg Arimidex EOD (or ED if needed)
Week 11 to 13 - 10 mg Nolva/day (is this enough?)
Week 14 to 16 - PCT starts (3 weeks after last poke)
Week 14 100 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day
week 15 & 16 50 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day

OR…

OPTION #2
Week 1-10
500mg Enth / week
Week 1-13
20mg nolva/day

3 weeks after last injection:

Week 14
5000 i.u. hcg /week
100mg clomid/day
Week 15
100mg clomid/day

Also please give me your opinion about injecting once or twice a week. I’ll be using a 3cc, 22 gauge, 1.5" pin.

Thanks boys!

I might be wrong, but my first thought is that is way overkill on the anti-estrogens, especially for just 500mg test per week and no other aas.

I say get yourself some 25 gauge pins…

[quote]OPTION #1
Week 1 to 10 - 500 mg Test E/week.
Week 1 to 10 - 1 mg Arimidex EOD (or ED if needed)
Week 11 to 13 - 10 mg Nolva/day (is this enough?)
Week 14 to 16 - PCT starts (3 weeks after last poke)
Week 14 100 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day
week 15 & 16 50 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day

OR…

OPTION #2
Week 1-10
500mg Enth / week
Week 1-13
20mg nolva/day [/quote]

I would drop the nolva during the cycle and use the a-dex. Keep the nolva on hand in case you get a visit from the boob fairy.

PCT-wise I would get some toremifene, and drop the nolva/clomid. But that is just a personal thing. I have bad sides with the clomid especially at doses over 50mg.

As for injection frequency: OF your 2 choices I w3ould go with 2X a week. But if it were me doing this cycle I would inject E3D.

Other than that your cycle looks pretty good to me.

Option 3
Week 1-10
500mg Test E EW
25-50mg Proviron ED

Week 12-15
Nolvadex [12]40g,[13]30mg,[14]20mg,[15]10mg

I’m surprised more people either don’t know about and don’t use proviron with test. When I say they’re like peanut butter and jelly believe me they are hand and glove for each other. Proviron is a decent estrogen control product and it makes you pretty damn hard everywhere.

Thanks. I’m getting the feeling that Arimidex isn’t the greatest. Does anyone have any experience with AIFM during a cycle or as part of PCT??

Arimidex is perfectly fine. In fact - using an AI during cycle instead of a SERM is preferable.

Arimidex is a good product, its necessary for some and recommended for others. However, to really need it you either have to be taking larger amounts of T or other aromataseable gear or be really E sensitive.

That’s why again I personally love Proviron. It gives you some anti-estrogen support [not as much as a-dex, letro or aromasin] but enough. Plus it minimizes some of the potential bloat of Test and it adds to overall vascularity