[quote]Sagat wrote:
Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
forlife wrote:
What is your take on shrugs as part of a regular workout routine? I rarely seem them included in the programs I’ve seen here and elsewhere. Is it better just to stick with complex lifts or to do other kinds of shoulder isolation exercises?
I think you should look at the pictures of people recommending certain routines. I only do shrugs for traps. They work. There should be no debate about that.
There is no way that I would tell someone to rely on any other exercise if their goal was to build that muscle group up to the best of their genetic ability.
What kind of ROM do you do though? This may sound like a nitpicking “TUT” kind of question, but I think it makes a big difference. I used to try to shrug all the way up, til my shoulders are almost touching my ear lobes, but most legitimately big guys I see doing them pile on a ton of weight, use straps, and only move the bar a couple inches.
I think you may be missing a very fundamental concept. When you have really big traps, you CAN’T touch your fucking ears. I go up as far as my traps will allow, which to some newbie may not seem like as much movement. That doesn’t mean it isn’t VERY effective, especially with the weights I am using.
The significance of full range of motion has been blown drastically out of proportion, especially when it concerns someone who is already big.
Ronnie Coleman would not be able to touch his ears with his shoulders no matter how hard he tried.
X, how much weight you are talking about?
I ask because people often use the example of “if you are already hitting your traps with 550 rack pulls, shrugs with 225 will do nothing…”, but i think someone who pulls that kind of weights, will use way more than 225 on shrugs.
I never did much shrugs, but recently i was considering doing 1 or 2 sets of high reps after deadlifts to see what happens.
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I don’t do rack pulls. In the past I went as heavy as 540lbs on shrugs. I currently go up to 450lbs usually. I think you can look at my traps and tell it works.