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Opinions on MHP Dark Matter?


#1

I tried to search if anyone on here is using this for PWO. I know that Surge dominates, but I was wondering if anyone had used this and disliked it or liked it, or if by reading the ingredients it's a worthwhile product.

Label:


2.6 Lbs. Fruit Punch
Supplement Facts
Serving Size:2Scoops(60.8g)
Servings Per Container:20
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 240
Calories From Fat 0g
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Trans Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0g 0%
Total Carbohydrate 48g 16%
Sugars 10g â? 
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Protein 12g 20%
Dark Matterâ?¢ Proprietary Blend (Patent Pending) 60g â? 
The Ultimate Post Workout Muscle Growth Acceleratorâ?¢:
WaxiMAXâ?¢-C3G Low Viscosity High Molecular Weight Osmotic Waxy Maize Starch With Molecular Dispersion Technology
Waxy Maize, Maltoplex-18â?¢ Glucose Polymer, Dextrose, C3G Anthocyanidins
HydroSIZEâ?¢: Multi-Phase Creatine Transport And Cell Volumizing Matrix
InstaPeakâ?¢ (Instant Acting Peak Plasma Concentration Creatine Pyruvate), IntraPhaseâ?¢ (Glucose Bound Creatine Gluconate), MicroTeinâ?¢ (Microencapsulated Sustained Release Creatine Monohydrate), Glycerol Monostearate
ProSYNTHAGENâ?¢: Protein Synthesis Accelerator (Dual Portal Anabolic Amino Acid Infusion)
Free Form Infusioni (L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Threonine, L-Valine, L-Histidine, L-Isoleucine, L-Methionine), Leucroseâ?¢ Peptide Infusion (Leucine-Alanine Di Peptide)
* Percent Daily Values not established
Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
Other Ingredients:
Black Rice Extract, Lecithin, Citric Acid, Malic Acid, Natural And Artificial Flavors, Silica, Blue #1, Red #40, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose.


#2

garbage! go lift!


#3

[quote]slimthugger wrote:
garbage! go lift![/quote]

very informative. ty.

go lift!


#4

Bueller? Bueller?


#5

Trash


#6

is it really that hard to ask for an explanation.

thoughts? reasoning? why is it trash?


#7

First off it’s “trash” because you’re on a site of Biotest enthusiasts, so anything else will always be trash.

As for my own opinion…(which is based solely on the label)

Pros:
No fat.

Cons:
It would be nice if it had more protein
It would be nice to see a bit more sugar.
I’d rather a simpler profile of creatine, it’s like the kitchen sink of creatine there. (or at least it reads that way)
I’d like to see the breakdown of Amino Acids

Neutral:
Waxy Maize - since I don’t have any experience with Waxy Maize, I can’t say anything good or bad.

Conclusion:
For me, it wouldn’t be my first choice, but if it was the ONLY product available in my local shop, I might at least try it once.


#8

that’s what my opinion was on it as well. I tried to email MHP about what you asked and I got the sales pitch. I’ve used this stuff before, and I do feel like I’m less sore/tired the next day. I’m not sure if just the waxy maize or the creatine, but I would like to know how many grams I’m getting of each.