Sorry Aragorn, but I’ve had my heart set on this for awhile.
I know I probly sound like a douchebag 2 u, but I am not a competitive bodybuilder… I just want to look and feel better about myself, have more confidence, and score more women!
I have researched the juice for awhile and I feel I’m physically and mentally ready for it. From everything I’ve read and watched it’s safe as long as its not abused. I would be perfectly happy bulking up to 190-200 and just maintaining that for awhile.
People I’ve read about have used juice with a lot less experience than I have and have not had ill effects. Even several famous people have used when they were as young as 16! And they are still healthy!
AAS can be perfectly safe as long as you monitor your blood and heart and use the correct protective measures.
No you’re actually quite polite about it, thank you. I wasn’t talking about the safety aspect of the juice (although that can be quite dangerous if you get bad info or don’t do any reading), I was talking about your level of dedication.
I agree that it can be used quite safely and without permanent ill-effect, even if someone is marginally dumb when they go about it.
I’m not a competitive bodybuilder and never will be: I have no desire to step on stage in a banana hammock whatsoever and I don’t want to be 265 and ripped. But I’ve been in the game a few years, and the one thing I know is that you have to have the foundation of consistency there before you step into it.
Contrary to what people think, you actually have to be more anal and more dedicated while on. You have to be religiously fanatical about diet calories, macros, timing, training, cardio, sleep, vitamins, ANCILLARIES, sterile technique, everything.
A lot of guys reach for the juice before they really know what the hell they’re doing with they’re training and diet. They look to AAS as a crutch because they can’t figure out how to grow or get lean without it—because they’re being stupid or lazy.
So they do a cycle and then feel good and see gains-- even with the same stupid planning, training, and diet advice that they used before they went on AAS–and suddenly they don’t ever want to train naturally again because they’re convinced they need the drugs to do anything.
That isn’t true, they’re just too stupid to make progress naturally because they don’t stay consistent and they backslide after they come off every cycle. They stop training for a month or more after a cycle because they don’t have the desire to go to the gym.
They don’t WANT to do it. Little do they realize that this is precisely the reason they lose everything, or gain little in the first place. They don’t grind it out when its unpleasant or grueling or a drag. They go drink instead.
That’s why the foundation has to be laid and that’s why all the vets here yell at everyone else to eat more and train more and come back in 2 years for cycle advice. It’s why Prof X gets so irate at people.
The reason pro bb’ers get so big is that it’s their whole lifestyle. Day in and day out. The reason Caveman got to where he is, juice or not, its his lifestyle. Same with X, Bauer, jackreape, Dave Tate, everyone. It’s become ingrained from constant practice and dedication.
Honestly, consider this question: if you can’t be consistent over the long haul when training naturally, how can you be consistent after your cycle is over? You’ll just lose it all through negligence or partying laziness (‘scoring chicks man’). For that matter, how can you be disciplined enough to do everything right during your cycle?
Chicks are good man. Everyone could use more of them in their life… except maybe pushharder. Rat bastard that he is. But I want you to really consider that question.
Where are you going to be 1 year from now? Two years? Three?
I’m sure this sounds like a dick thing to say, and I don’t mean it to be that way at all, but that’s why we hammer it in to everyone as much as possible. Doesn’t matter what your goal is, whether its to be 260 and shredded or stay in your fighting weight class or be an photography model or whatever.
It’s never, ever, EVER about the short term dedication. Anyone can pull enough discipline together to do things right for 3-6 months. Most can do it even for a year. Longevity matters, and that’s why the foundation is so important.
You want a mere 10-15 lbs from your cycle (180-190/195). The things you say you want–confidence and self image–are things that come from within, never from without. A drug can never give that to you. It can temporarily boost them, but in the end it always comes down to what it was before.
10-15 lbs later, you’re still going to want more because you didn’t get your magically perfect physique. You’ll still see flaws, you’ll still feel the same.