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Opinion on John Meadows Program


#1

Hello,
CT, whats yout opinion on john meadows programs for e.g reactive pump program. Well not really the program, more the frequency.

In his programs or the basic weekly split he uses a 4 day template and for each day a body part e.g legs- back - chest+shoulders - arms . In one of your articles you say that for natural guys , they should forget the "1 time per week crap". Does that mean if I want to do something like a Meadows program that I should adapt it (I= natural, 4 years of training ) or should I completely stay away from this kind of training?

Best wishes and thanks for your time:)


#2

[quote]Immunion wrote:
Hello,
CT, whats yout opinion on john meadows programs for e.g reactive pump program. Well not really the program, more the frequency.

In his programs or the basic weekly split he uses a 4 day template and for each day a body part e.g legs- back - chest+shoulders - arms . In one of your articles you say that for natural guys , they should forget the “1 time per week crap”. Does that mean if I want to do something like a Meadows program that I should adapt it (I= natural, 4 years of training ) or should I completely stay away from this kind of training?

Best wishes and thanks for your time:)[/quote]

I’m looking at the Reactive Pump program and it’s 5 days a week. Chest/Shoulders are trained twice a week.

Arms are only trained once directly BUT they are worked also when you do back and chest/shoulders, so they receive plenty of stimulation.

The back and legs are only trained once. Which is not ideal IMHO but the way John trashes legs I’m not sure if I could do them twice per week.

But I’d prefer to add a second back workout that is more pump oriented.


#3

Understood CT. I think i will just try a meadows program and see how it works.
Are there some “special” people who generally get better results from 1 time per week anhiliation training than from 2 times per week training? (They are naturals)


#4

I’m not john Meadows (obviously) but I did do the entire reactive pump program work out. I also spoke (on forums) a few good times with him on the program.

He actually seems very flexible in terms of changing things to fit your needs.
He also mentioned that there are two chest/shoulders days because he found that’s what most people wanted to focus on. On some of his clients he does a 6 day program and that includes a heavy back day as well as a pump back day. Further more rear delts (which CT says he likes doing on back day) is worked on both Chest/shoulders days.
As for legs most of the program includes deadlift with chains on the heavy back day. Ramping up in weight followed by a very grueling max rep set. (Going from 10 to 25 reps [if you get 25 you add 50lb to the barbell on the next workout] ).

You can kind of view that as a second day of leg stimulation. Also his leg work outs are as CT says… Yurt only doing them once a week. Dave Tate can be seen on YouTube puking from various Meadows legs work outs…
For arms you will lose pump if you try to do any higher frequency than every 7 days, I found that through much trial and error.

For frequency in general CT mentioned he likes doing a once a week bodybuilding style work out after doing his more traditional style.

CT - sorry didn’t mean to put words in your mouth, you cab correct me if I am wrong.


#5

@absoluteboxer

Can you tell me more pease? I am really interested:)


#6

[quote]AbsoluteBoxer wrote:
I’m not john Meadows (obviously) but I did do the entire reactive pump program work out. I also spoke (on forums) a few good times with him on the program.

He actually seems very flexible in terms of changing things to fit your needs.
He also mentioned that there are two chest/shoulders days because he found that’s what most people wanted to focus on. On some of his clients he does a 6 day program and that includes a heavy back day as well as a pump back day. Further more rear delts (which CT says he likes doing on back day) is worked on both Chest/shoulders days.
As for legs most of the program includes deadlift with chains on the heavy back day. Ramping up in weight followed by a very grueling max rep set. (Going from 10 to 25 reps [if you get 25 you add 50lb to the barbell on the next workout] ).

You can kind of view that as a second day of leg stimulation. Also his leg work outs are as CT says… Yurt only doing them once a week. Dave Tate can be seen on YouTube puking from various Meadows legs work outs…
For arms you will lose pump if you try to do any higher frequency than every 7 days, I found that through much trial and error.

For frequency in general CT mentioned he likes doing a once a week bodybuilding style work out after doing his more traditional style.

CT - sorry didn’t mean to put words in your mouth, you cab correct me if I am wrong.[/quote]

That’s one way I did it, but it’s not how I do it now.