[quote]idaho wrote:
“A life changing moment”: After a “skinny” tried to kill me at 6 yards with a rusty AK , I have had a different perspective on all my training, whether its empty hands or weapons. Real life situations tend to cut through the bullshit…
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Somalia?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]idaho wrote:
“A life changing moment”: After a “skinny” tried to kill me at 6 yards with a rusty AK , I have had a different perspective on all my training, whether its empty hands or weapons. Real life situations tend to cut through the bullshit…
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Somalia?[/quote]
yeah, in the “area of conflict” LOL…not a place for a vacation, but, now you would be amazed at the international trash that are growing fat on the pirate trade. no stable government and local “warlords” running everything from hostages to weapons. A true ratpit.
As a personal note, I believe you will find that, if you continue to train , there will be many “monents of clarity”. Getting your ass handed to you by a better fighter, getting caught up in a survival situation, training with far superior people will all serve to remind you that no matter how good you think you are, there is someone better, and, that is what drives me to drive myself.
The biggest single moment was after I’d been boxing a few years, made some good progress, won a couple of fights against kids who were on their way to being well known on the amateur circuit. People were starting to talk about me in the same way. I went to another gym with my coach to spar a kid who’d won a junior national title. I landed less than 10 punches in four rounds. It was probably the most humiliating day of my life.
I learned two things:
How far off being an excellent boxer for my age I was.
That although I was a natural athlete, that was only compared to average people. Compared to the very best, I would never be able to compete for athleticism. I knew straight away that if I was going to avoid ever feeling that again, I needed to become a smart fighter, rather than just a supreme technician. I have spent the last 9 years building on the lessons of that day.
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compete in mma and then open your mouth, training is just that[/quote]
Don’t need to, they buckle in training… says a lot to me about how they fight.
So yeah, type away.
[quote]humble wrote:
[quote]
compete in mma and then open your mouth, training is just that[/quote]
Don’t need to, they buckle in training… says a lot to me about how they fight.
So yeah, type away.[/quote]
you wouldn’t last, that’s the whole point
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Sup,
This summer I’ll be transitioning from Judo to Muay Thai. Just for the summer, though. I’ve never really had any moments of clarity other that weight training really is just GPP and that I need to train more.
Anyone here have some moments of clarity they’d like to share?
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3 moments for me.
First time I ever sparred in a boxing ring with one of our legit contenders. I was 18. It was painful. Getting hit in the face will make you seriously wonder why you aren’t playing golf somewhere. I guess you either can take it or you quit boxing at some point when you get lit up like a Christmas tree.
A fight outside of a bar when I was 20 in Monroe, LA. I was hammered and got the crap beat out of me because the guy I started the altercation with had buddies. Worst beating I ever took and it could have been worse. All over a dumb bitch. I quickly learned that I would never start another bar fight and not to ever drink to the point that I couldn’t handle myself in case I had to.
Fist time I got to train with a wrestler/submission grappler. I was taken down and submitted like a rag doll. This was 7 years ago and have been doing ground stuff ever since, although I didn’t get into BJJ until a few years later.
[quote]idaho wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]idaho wrote:
“A life changing moment”: After a “skinny” tried to kill me at 6 yards with a rusty AK , I have had a different perspective on all my training, whether its empty hands or weapons. Real life situations tend to cut through the bullshit…
[/quote]
Somalia?[/quote]
yeah, in the “area of conflict” LOL…not a place for a vacation, but, now you would be amazed at the international trash that are growing fat on the pirate trade. no stable government and local “warlords” running everything from hostages to weapons. A true ratpit.
As a personal note, I believe you will find that, if you continue to train , there will be many “monents of clarity”. Getting your ass handed to you by a better fighter, getting caught up in a survival situation, training with far superior people will all serve to remind you that no matter how good you think you are, there is someone better, and, that is what drives me to drive myself. [/quote]
That’s fine. I welcome any knowledge, which is why I made this thread. I’ve had a lot of aha moments that basically pointed to me being shit. It’s what drives me as well. I need to be better.
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
The biggest single moment was after I’d been boxing a few years, made some good progress, won a couple of fights against kids who were on their way to being well known on the amateur circuit. People were starting to talk about me in the same way. I went to another gym with my coach to spar a kid who’d won a junior national title. I landed less than 10 punches in four rounds. It was probably the most humiliating day of my life.
I learned two things:
How far off being an excellent boxer for my age I was.
That although I was a natural athlete, that was only compared to average people. Compared to the very best, I would never be able to compete for athleticism. I knew straight away that if I was going to avoid ever feeling that again, I needed to become a smart fighter, rather than just a supreme technician. I have spent the last 9 years building on the lessons of that day. [/quote]
I was going to post something, but this summed it up for me. The only difference is that I’ve been training BJJ.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]humble wrote:
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compete in mma and then open your mouth, training is just that[/quote]
Don’t need to, they buckle in training… says a lot to me about how they fight.
So yeah, type away.[/quote]
you wouldn’t last, that’s the whole point[/quote]
Maybe, very possible or it is possible that pulverise them and they can’t take me down. Who knows. I’m probably 12 and trolling for 10 years without anyone picking up. Who tha fuck knows ay :-/
[quote]humble wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]humble wrote:
Personally, and I’ve never competed in MMA and don’t pretend to know every MMA fighter out there, my experience matches Humble. From time to time we have MMA guys come in looking to improve their standup. Without exception, they’ve never stuck it out more than a couple of weeks. Something about it, or the type of person who generally goes in for it, i guess. Maybe because you’re always changing what you are doing, not focusing on one discipline, dedicating yourself completely to mastering one thing.
I think when you specialise, you tend to define yourself a lot in terms of your discipline. That brings expectations on yourself after a few years of training, however good or bad you are in the grand scheme of things, you will never surrender, or give up while fighting is an option.
Again, not saying that applies to all MMA fighters, as some will obviously be warriors, but it does apply to all of the ones I’ve come across.
I agree there are a lot of nasty guys who call themselves MMA fighters. I have some in my gym. They like to run around and hit the bag for bit and do some nasty looking sparring and then talk about it and then take a break and then kick and punch at the bag and then roll around and “wrestle”, then talk about it…so on and so forth.
Those are the guys who do not stick to a discipline in anything. They seem to think that because they are branded MMA then if you are a puncher they are a ground guy and vice versa. In thier mind they can counter whatever comes at them because they have secret voodoo whatever the fuck.
I beat the shit out of those guys all the time, I enjoy it. I have on 2 occasions had a MMA poser critique something I was doing on the bag, when in fact they have no idea what I am trying or thinking about, and then proceed to “help” me by teaching me something LOL. Both times turned into a sparring session of sorts and the other guy picking his ass off the ground and stating, man your striking is pretty good. NO SHIT!!?? What I have learned is that they guys who really train thier asses off you will not meet like that because they are in thier own gym working.
I have also learned that if you stick to pure boxing in MMA or kickboxing you will loose many fights. Now that being said I think boxing has a lot to offer and you can adapt it to many situations. Its no different from jitsu or wrestling or whatever. They are all great for what they are desinged for. You can’t be a pure jiu jitsu guy and win lots of fights etc… I do feel, and have said before that the best route is to pick a discipline that works for your personalitly and style and become proficient, extremley proficient at it. Then at that point start working other disciplines to back your mainstay up and change the fight so you can use what you are best at.
I will say that I am not a strong ground fighter. Never had to be. Never gave a shit. Now I have been doing Jiu Jitsu for a couple years now. I still don’t think I am that strong but that is because I train in a gym full of jitsu guys who are also getting better. When I roll newer people and other MMA guys normally I come out on top so I can tell that I am learning and getting better. There are plenty of guys who can woop my ass, I am not delusional and I have had a few ass beatings.
The difference is the more you hit me the more pissed and focused I become. I don’t run and I don’t stop. So many guys “doing MMA” are just not wired that way. I find it no different than anything else I have done in life. Most people are posers or dabblers and just want to feel cool and talk with thier friends. I am with the guys who are usually looked at as a little bit out there and or “crazy” whatever.
To make this long post longer. I can equate this with my old passion of Drifting. I alway stress to people to learn how to drive first. You need to learn road racing ie how to run the proper line , throttle control trail braking etc. all the basics because they ALL apply behind the wheel when drifting but everybody wants to be cool and just hop in the car and start trying to slide or they bolt on every fucking part in the world to the car but they never learned what it was to control it with limited parts and therefore limited thier skill set.
Fighting is the same you need to learn the basics and do them well. That part sucks and nobody wants to commit to that.
Some personal moments of eureka/satori:
As a teen:
Upon witnessing a serious street fight for the first time: “holy crap, those first seconds REALLY count”
“I have a blue belt now, but really, against an angry asshole, I can use maybe two techniques that actually work”
“wow, I really froze up when he hit me in the face with that playful jab”
“cardio may be 50% psychological, but the other 50% one can and should work on”
“nothing attracts scum like martial arts”
Later, as a man, in no particular order:
-There must be a solid foundation of strength (not really the opposite of your ‘strength work = GPP’)
-Fighting is 50% animalistic and 50% cultural. The technical stuff is 1% luxury. That doesn’t mean one cannot force conflicts to only revolve around luxurious flippancies. That’s the big trick.
-Martial Arts is mostly a tragic misunderstanding and also an idiotic term. MMA is the great successor that will carry that wonderful, horrible torch for long years to come.
Taking someone down makes them a bitch because they won’t stand and fight? OK. So if your choices are stand and get KOed by someone twice your size who then goes on to rape your wife and kill your kids or, take him down and end up keeping your family safe, you are a bitch if you don’t say, “screw my family. I am going to fight ‘like a man’” ?
By that logic US soldiers are pussies because they wear body armor even though their enemies probably don’t.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Taking someone down makes them a bitch because they won’t stand and fight? OK. So if your choices are stand and get KOed by someone twice your size who then goes on to rape your wife and kill your kids or, take him down and end up keeping your family safe, you are a bitch if you don’t say, “screw my family. I am going to fight ‘like a man’” ?
By that logic US soldiers are pussies because they wear body armor even though their enemies probably don’t. [/quote]
Must everything with you turn into a “BJJ vs. The World” thread?
[quote]humble wrote:
Whilst he was busy trying to take my legs I’d be busy biting his fucking ears and nose off his face. Keep ‘competing’ in the street. See how far you’ll get. MMAers really take to the idea of ‘sport’ and carry it with them even through to real life.
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And you just did the same thing by translating MT to the street.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Taking someone down makes them a bitch because they won’t stand and fight? OK. So if your choices are stand and get KOed by someone twice your size who then goes on to rape your wife and kill your kids or, take him down and end up keeping your family safe, you are a bitch if you don’t say, “screw my family. I am going to fight ‘like a man’” ?
By that logic US soldiers are pussies because they wear body armor even though their enemies probably don’t. [/quote]
Must everything with you turn into a “BJJ vs. The World” thread?[/quote]
Did I mention BJJ? I’m just asking what does “fighting like a man” actually mean? Is it about techniques or attitude?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Taking someone down makes them a bitch because they won’t stand and fight? OK. So if your choices are stand and get KOed by someone twice your size who then goes on to rape your wife and kill your kids or, take him down and end up keeping your family safe, you are a bitch if you don’t say, “screw my family. I am going to fight ‘like a man’” ?
By that logic US soldiers are pussies because they wear body armor even though their enemies probably don’t. [/quote]
Must everything with you turn into a “BJJ vs. The World” thread?[/quote]
Did I mention BJJ? I’m just asking what does “fighting like a man” actually mean? Is it about techniques or attitude?
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Fighting like a man means not at any point having another man’s balls resting on your chin, or his taint in one or more of your nostrils.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Taking someone down makes them a bitch because they won’t stand and fight? OK. So if your choices are stand and get KOed by someone twice your size who then goes on to rape your wife and kill your kids or, take him down and end up keeping your family safe, you are a bitch if you don’t say, “screw my family. I am going to fight ‘like a man’” ?
By that logic US soldiers are pussies because they wear body armor even though their enemies probably don’t. [/quote]
Yes. Fighting like a man means you don’t particularily enjoy another mans hands anywhere near you let alone their legs, chest, abdomen and worse as others have mentioned, their balls in your face.
Quite simply it means you’re not into gay love, hugging it out, rolling around in the hay with men and shit. Put your body parts near me and I will rip them off with my fucking teeth to teach you a lesson.
So, fighting like a man means hitting the other guy first, fast and hard to stop them turning into a gay cunt and holding on to you with all their faggot love disguised as MMA technique.
So, my experience has been that most guys who ‘take it to the ground’ take it up the ass too. They’re bitches. They cannot cop a smack in the teeth or the humiliation of being knocked out. Hurts too much physically and mostly emotionally. So they will resort to homosexual means to save face. That my friend is the anti-thesis of a man. A man will take what is coming to him. Whether it be a busted eye socket, broken nose or missing teeth. He’ll get up and tell the story to his grandchildren in years to come of how he lost his tooth or why his nose is crooked.
I don’t want to be telling my children my ears look like shit because I used to hug men a lot.
Your US soldier similitude is stupid. Can’t even be compared and you don’t want to hear what I have to say about all soldiers. You’ll cry and judging by your love of hugging men, I don’t think you can stay mature enough once you hear my take on all of them, world wide.
Now, you just pumped me up. Gonna go find a gym to train on some MMA fags
[quote]humble wrote:
Now, you just pumped me up. Gonna go find a gym to train on some MMA fags[/quote]
Y dO U hAATEEee JITSU???
[quote]humble wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Taking someone down makes them a bitch because they won’t stand and fight? OK. So if your choices are stand and get KOed by someone twice your size who then goes on to rape your wife and kill your kids or, take him down and end up keeping your family safe, you are a bitch if you don’t say, “screw my family. I am going to fight ‘like a man’” ?
By that logic US soldiers are pussies because they wear body armor even though their enemies probably don’t. [/quote]
Yes. Fighting like a man means you don’t particularily enjoy another mans hands anywhere near you let alone their legs, chest, abdomen and worse as others have mentioned, their balls in your face.
Quite simply it means you’re not into gay love, hugging it out, rolling around in the hay with men and shit. Put your body parts near me and I will rip them off with my fucking teeth to teach you a lesson.
So, fighting like a man means hitting the other guy first, fast and hard to stop them turning into a gay cunt and holding on to you with all their faggot love disguised as MMA technique.
So, my experience has been that most guys who ‘take it to the ground’ take it up the ass too. They’re bitches. They cannot cop a smack in the teeth or the humiliation of being knocked out. Hurts too much physically and mostly emotionally. So they will resort to homosexual means to save face. That my friend is the anti-thesis of a man. A man will take what is coming to him. Whether it be a busted eye socket, broken nose or missing teeth. He’ll get up and tell the story to his grandchildren in years to come of how he lost his tooth or why his nose is crooked.
I don’t want to be telling my children my ears look like shit because I used to hug men a lot.
Your US soldier similitude is stupid. Can’t even be compared and you don’t want to hear what I have to say about all soldiers. You’ll cry and judging by your love of hugging men, I don’t think you can stay mature enough once you hear my take on all of them, world wide.
Now, you just pumped me up. Gonna go find a gym to train on some MMA fags[/quote]
I would love to hear your thoughts on soldiers and MMA