I think we need something else entirely, I think the The Pledge of Allegiance sucks.
I was very intimidated as a child from the pledge, besides the peer pressure from fellow cohorts and adults n authority positions, it seemed like some kind of wierd contract, I was thinking "what’s a pledge, what’s allegiance, why to a “flag” why indivisible what about states?
What god… am I in church or what, If I dont say it will I go to hell?
Am I a “bad” kid?
Now I dont realy have a problem with the “God” part, who cares realy sheesh
I looked up the exact meaning of the words when I heard a socialist wrote it in the first place I got suspicious, I don’t know about you, but I don’t like the idea of a socialist calling for Delivery of goods or personal property (my whole personage itself) as security for a debt or the obligation of loyalty, as a vassal or subject owing allegiance and services to a lord or sovereign under feudal law, as a loyal subject to a monarch.
I think not, I think Hillary or Billary may like it, but no thanks
What’s wrong with someone coming up with something better, why do we need this old socialist authored thing with iffy meaning?
I think the popularly held intention is a positive thing, and there exists a desire in most all of us to have some ritual to connect to this country, to show respect, and especially gratitude, I just think this isn’t the right way, at least for me, I like to undertsand what I’m actualy saying, not just muttering some incantation like an unthinking automaton.
The words are too suspect and crafty for me, at least after I bothered to REALY read them, and have suspicious intent as written.
that poem is not sacrosanct, it is not burned into tablets handed down from some mountain, it is not inscribed on ancient parchment written in Aramaic or Hebrew, it is merely an adoption of something someone unimportant wrote to put forward HIS socialist ideals, and then was slightly modified to make it more palatable to non socialists, and nothing more.
IMO the pledge is rather communistic, I think we need something else entirely to inspire patriotism in children besides some socialist utopian contract, let me attempt to illustrate my point.
Delivery of goods or personal property as security for a debt or obligation: a loan requiring a pledge of property.
The contract by which such delivery is made.
Loyalty or the obligation of loyalty, as to a nation, sovereign, or cause. See Synonyms at fidelity.
The obligations of a vassal to a lord.
Middle English alligeaunce, alteration of ligeaunce, from Old French ligeance, from lige, liege. See liege.]
A lord or sovereign to whom allegiance and service are due according to feudal law.
A vassal or subject owing allegiance and services to a lord or sovereign under feudal law.
A loyal subject to a monarch.
Hale vs… Hinkle
The Individual may stand upon his constitutional rights… He owes no such duty to the state since he receives nothing therefrom beyond the protection of his life and property, His rights as such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state…
“All that government does and provides legitimately is in pursuit of it’s duty to provide protection for private rights (Wynhammer v. People, 13 NY 378), which duty is a debt owed to it’s creator, WE THE PEOPLE and the private unenfranchised individual; which debt and duty is never extinguished nor discharged, and is perpetual. No matter what the government/state provides for us in manner of convenience and safety, the unenfranchised individual owes nothing to the government.” Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43
“There is no such thing as a power of inherent sovereignty in the government of the [federal] United States… In this country sovereignty resides in the people, and Congress can exercise no power which they [the sovereign people] have not, by their Constitution entrusted to it: All else is withheld.” – Supreme Court Justice Field
"Non dat qui non habet—He gives nothing who has nothing."Bouvier’s Law Dictionary (1914)
How did this Pledge of Allegiance to a flag replace the US Constitution and Bill of Rights in the affections of many Americans? Among the nations in the world, only the USA and the Philippines, imitating the USA, have a pledge to their flag. That begs the question: Who institutionalized the Pledge as the cornerstone of American patriotic programs and indoctrination in the public and parochial schools?
In 1892, a socialist named Francis Bellamy created the Pledge of Allegiance for Youth’s Companion, a national family magazine for youth published in Boston. The magazine had the largest national circulation of its day with a circulation around 500 thousand. Two liberal businessmen, Daniel Ford and James Upham, his nephew, owned Youth’s Companion.
Before the turn of the last century the American Flag was rarely seen in the classroom or in front of the school. Upham changed that. In 1888, the magazine began a campaign to sell American flags to the public schools. By 1892, his magazine had sold American flags to about 26 thousand schools(1). The market for American Flags existed because state’s flags held the staff of honor, not the military flag of the United States that currently hangs in classrooms and courtrooms across America.
In 1891, Upham had the idea of using the celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus’ discovery of America to promote the use of the flag in the public schools. The same year, the magazine hired Daniel Ford’s radical young friend, Baptist minister, Nationalist, and Christian Socialist leader, Francis Bellamy, to help Upham in his public relations work. Bellamy was the first cousin of the famous American socialist, Edward Bellamy. Edward Bellamy’s futuristic novel, Looking Backward, published in 1888, described a utopian Boston in the year 2000. The book spawned an elitist socialist movement in Boston known as “Nationalism,” whose members wanted the federal government to nationalize most of the American economy. Francis Bellamy was a member of this movement and a vice president of its auxiliary group, the Society of Christian Socialists(2). He was a Baptist minister and he lectured and preached on the virtues of socialism and the evils of capitalism. He gave a speech on “Jesus the Socialist” and a series of sermons on “The Socialism of the Primitive Church.” In 1891, he was forced to resign from his Boston church, the Bethany Baptist church, because of his socialist activities. He then joined the staff of the Youth’s Companion(3).
By February 1892, Francis Bellamy and Upham had lined up the National Education Association to support the Youth’s Companion as a sponsor of the national public schools’ observance of Columbus Day along with the use of the American flag. By June 29, Bellamy and Upham had arranged for Congress and President Benjamin Harrison to announce a national proclamation making the public school ceremony the center of the national Columbus Day celebrations for 1892(4).
Bellamy, under the supervision of Upham, wrote the program for this celebration, including its flag salute, the Pledge of Allegiance. His version was,
“I pledge allegiance to my flag and to the Republic for which it stands-- one nation indivisible – with liberty and justice for all.”
This program and its pledge appeared in the September 8 issue of Youth’s Companion(5). He considered putting the words “fraternity” and “equality” in the Pledge but decided they were too radical and controversial for public schools(6).
The original Pledge was recited while giving a stiff, uplifted right hand salute, criticized and discontinued during WWII. The words “my flag” were changed to “the flag of the United States of America” because it was feared that the children of immigrants might confuse “my flag” for the flag of their homeland. The phrase “Under God,” was added by Congress and President Eisenhower in 1954 at the urging of the Knights of Columbus(7).
The American Legion’s constitution includes the following goal: “To foster and perpetuate a one hundred percent Americanism.” One of its major standing committees was the “Americanism Commission” and its subsidiary, the “Counter Subversive Activities Committee.” To the fear of immigrants, it added the fear of communism(8).
Over the years the Legion has worked closely with the NEA and with the US Office of Education. The Legion insisted on “one hundred percent” Americanism in public school courses in American history, civics, Geography and English. The Pledge was a part of this Americanism campaign(9) and, in 1950, the Legion adopted the Pledge as an official part of its own ritual(10).
In 1922, the Ku Klux Klan, which also had adopted the “one hundred percent Americanism” theme along with the flag ceremonies and the Pledge, became a political power in the state of Oregon and arranged for legislation to be passed requiring all Catholic children to attend public schools. The US Supreme Court later overturned this legislation(11).Proving, once again, that the Constitution is the underlying strength of our political and judicial system.
Perhaps a team of social scientists and historians could explain why over the last century the Pledge of Allegiance has become a major centerpiece in American patriotism programs. A pledge or loyalty oath for children was not built around the Declaration of Independence – “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal…” Or the Gettysburg address – “a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal…”
Apparently, over the last century, Americans have been uncomfortable with the word “equality” as a patriotic theme. In 1992 the nation began its second century with the Pledge of Allegiance. Perhaps, and this is meant with no disrespect to the brave men and women who have given their lives for all the flag represents, the time has come to see that this allegiance should be to the US constitution and not to a piece of cloth.