Here’s one of my 85kg guy’s top snatch (240lbs… sorry for the lbs) from today.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
What do you mean? I almost never do lifts from the hang myself and almost never with my athletes. I use lifts from the hang only with hockey and football players.[/quote]
You mentioned you block Sn 120kg. I just don’t really recall you mentioning your lifts from the floor often on here.
Koing[/quote]
Well I don’t mention lifts often period I mentioned the lift from blocks because that was the last thing I did prior to posting and it was fresh in my mind. In reality I almost never do lifts from blocks because I don’t have blocks in my garage (where I do most of my training). I can stack old tires but I can’t drop the bar confidently so I don’t go heavy. I only go from blocks when I train at the Crossfit gym where I coach, which is maybe once a month.
My training template is fairly simple:
DAY 1 - SNATCH
- Snatch (normally working up to a max or near max double)
- Snatch pull variation (right now it’s mostly snatch deadlift to power position) working up to a max or near max double or triple
- Back squat I stay fairly conservative for sets of 3 reps
- Half back squat from a deadstart (from a 110 degrees knee angle) working up to a max for 6 reps
DAY 2 - CLEAN
- Clean (working up to a max or near max double)
- Clean pull (same as snatch)
- Front squat (working up to a max or near max triple)
DAY 3 - JERK
- Push press (working up to a max or near max triple)
- Jerk (working up to a max or near max double)
- Half front squat (knee angle 110 degrees) working up to a max or near max for 4 reps
- Power snatches 4-5 sets of 3 with about 75%
DAY 4 - OLYMPIC TOTAL
- Snatch
- Clean & jerk
And I have 1 or 2 bodybuilding days.
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Gotcha.
Olympic doesn’t need to be complicated once a lifter can actually lift.
Most beginners want a program but what they need to do is spend time learning to do the lifts, squat, pulls and do some conditioning. Job done.
Koing
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
What do you mean? I almost never do lifts from the hang myself and almost never with my athletes. I use lifts from the hang only with hockey and football players.[/quote]
You mentioned you block Sn 120kg. I just don’t really recall you mentioning your lifts from the floor often on here.
Koing[/quote]
Well I don’t mention lifts often period I mentioned the lift from blocks because that was the last thing I did prior to posting and it was fresh in my mind. In reality I almost never do lifts from blocks because I don’t have blocks in my garage (where I do most of my training). I can stack old tires but I can’t drop the bar confidently so I don’t go heavy. I only go from blocks when I train at the Crossfit gym where I coach, which is maybe once a month.
My training template is fairly simple:
DAY 1 - SNATCH
- Snatch (normally working up to a max or near max double)
- Snatch pull variation (right now it’s mostly snatch deadlift to power position) working up to a max or near max double or triple
- Back squat I stay fairly conservative for sets of 3 reps
- Half back squat from a deadstart (from a 110 degrees knee angle) working up to a max for 6 reps
DAY 2 - CLEAN
- Clean (working up to a max or near max double)
- Clean pull (same as snatch)
- Front squat (working up to a max or near max triple)
DAY 3 - JERK
- Push press (working up to a max or near max triple)
- Jerk (working up to a max or near max double)
- Half front squat (knee angle 110 degrees) working up to a max or near max for 4 reps
- Power snatches 4-5 sets of 3 with about 75%
DAY 4 - OLYMPIC TOTAL
- Snatch
- Clean & jerk
And I have 1 or 2 bodybuilding days.
[/quote]
Gotcha.
Olympic doesn’t need to be complicated once a lifter can actually lift.
Most beginners want a program but what they need to do is spend time learning to do the lifts, squat, pulls and do some conditioning. Job done.
Koing
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Agreed… I only use assistance exercises to solve a specific issue. I do not have mandatory exercises except for the lifts themselves.
This is from today’s session… the clean is kinda ugly because I was only doing power cleans and got a bit ambitious and had to go into a clean and wasn’t warmed up to the position.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Agreed… I only use assistance exercises to solve a specific issue. I do not have mandatory exercises except for the lifts themselves.
This is from today’s session… the clean is kinda ugly because I was only doing power cleans and got a bit ambitious and had to go into a clean and wasn’t warmed up to the position.
[/quote]Nice.
I only prescribe assistance for to work on/ fix specific things. I like to keep training barebones and not put things in just for the hell of it. Granted beginners have a lot going on.
Koing
[quote]Koing wrote:
I only prescribe assistance for to work on/ fix specific things. I like to keep training barebones and not put things in just for the hell of it. Granted beginners have a lot going on.
Koing[/quote]
I agree and to me assistance work to correct a weakness is often a paused lift (pause below knees or above knees, or at upper thigh, or at the bottom of the jerk dip).
I believe that the best assistance lifts are those that allow you to feel the technical correction (or physical focus point) you are working on without needing any coaching cues.