[quote]Paperclip wrote:
Funny that Sagir has a BMI score of 26.6 (170cm, 77kg) but looks thinner that Hui (BMI 24.4, 168cm, 69kg).
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We know that weight is not equal to muscle size or physique. Sagir or for that matter anyone with any reasonable size is dense according to the BMI and Hui is pretty ripped.
[quote]delikurt wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
I agree that some lifters have slight builds but I bet if you were to stand next to them it would be a different.
No, not really. I have a picture of myself standing next to every single member of the Turkish national team, and some of them were/are definitely of slight build.
I have to dig up my pics with Sagir, but here’s one of me with Mutlu. Mutlu was very dense, but Reyhan Arabicoglu and Taner Sagir were not. They had average physiques, which of course doesn’t matter to weightlifters. Still, it’s worth pointing out that neither Reyhan nor Taner ‘had’ legs or any muscle group, any more than an average gym-goer who puts some effort into training. I think it’s a bit of WL propaganda to suggest that ‘we’ have the best aesthetics. No, we don’t, and oftentimes WLs are of demonstrably slight build. Again, not that it matters. [/quote]
I said he has legs, back, traps and lats. I’m sure at the top of his Clean rack he had some reasonable lats. Sure his build is slight by weightlifting standards but it’s not god awful rubbish. He isn’t as muscled as other lifters.
I’m willing to bet if he took his shirt of his erectors spinae would be impressive.
I have seen a shift in the past Euro/ Worlds that most of the winners were not particularly muscled. Of course you always had a few freak shows that could pass off for lower tiered BB though! But also interesting to note that a bunch of them struggled up out of the Cleans and that the slighter guys did not. Goes to show mechanical and technique efficiency counts for a lot still and hypertrophy is not always needed/ evident.
Anyway I don’t care about his physique. I only care that he can teleport from the top of his Sn to the bottom
[quote]delikurt wrote:
On a tangential note, Taner Sagir’s career ended after a positive doping test and, from what I remember from the Turkish media, a bizarre and public death threat against the tester. I can’t think of another WL who flamed out that quickly–from Olympic gold to whacked-out oblivion in short order.
All the Turkish national coaches were replaced at around the same time; I don’t know the current coaches. Apparently the entire Turkish Weightlifting Federation came under sanctions in 2006. A lot of prospects on the national team also flamed out at around the same time and were not heard from again.
I’ve always felt bad that Mutlu couldn’t get it together for another gold medal in 2008. [/quote]
Such a shame. One of my favorite lifters for sure!
The Chinese lifters are ALWAYS muscled. Sure the 85 looks softer but from 56, 62, 69 and 77 they are lean and stacked. They do seeminly do a lot of upperbody work though.
Koing