[quote]Dave Rogerson wrote:
[quote]Dave Rogerson wrote:
Sorry I havent read the other replies in this thread, but feel that I have sufficient knowledge of this stuff to comment.
OK, I have a bodybuilding and powerlifting background, so have ammassed a decent level of hypertophy onto my frame. I get comments that i look a lot bigger than I weigh and appear to be somewhat muscular.
Now I am no genetic freak, but I eat very, very well and train hard most days. Been weightlifting for 7 months or so, but in that time have noticed a few things:
- Alteration in muscle density - this training makes you look different; thicker, grainier, etc
- Thicker back (extensors), legs, forearms
- A general increased ability to hypertophy elsewhere.
The last point is interesting. I still perform some movements for maintenance - some pressing, chins, curls, etc. But certainly not a larg amount whatsoever. However, I’ve noticed that it easier for me to get more musclular (and stronger) since I started OLing. My suspicion is that this is neural somehow. Perhaps with an overall increased ability to generate force rapidly, the neural adaptations have allowed me to recruit more high threshold motor units, which could mean a greater ability to recruit those MUs when performing hypertrophy work.
For instance, I am going on Holiday in a few weeks and have added a couple more BBing movements into my training,and thse few weeks, have clearly gotten more muscular.
So, perhaps adding in a few targetted movements for those neglected areas, like chest, arms, lats, etc, could be beneficial if seeing changes to your physique is your goal. You only have to look at some Chinese lifters to see that they carry a lot of muscle at their respective body weights.[/quote]
working big muscle groups to full ROM = body increases testerone = jacks you up
The Chinese do a fair amount of overall bb exercises. I read somewhere that the coaches believe chinese people don’t have the upperbody development/ strength as other lifters so this is why they do it. Sorry I can’t remember the source.
All good lifters will have well developed back, legs, traps, lats and eventually shoulders. If you add in bench press, chins, dips and curls you will be well rounded.
It isn’t that hard to pack on muscle if your already hammering your OLifts properly and eating lots.
You will definitely lack chest if you never BP/ push ups as thats the one area that the OLift does not hit. Biceps as well but your arms will get thickness from general size gains but your chest won’t.
I met Glenn Pendlay and Jon North when they came to Scotland earlier on in the year and was really surprised by how muscular Jon was. The videos and pictures you see didnt really do him justice. Either way, he did very, very little (if any) bodybuilding stuff but was pretty thick and dense everywhere.
I suppose if you can snatch 160 and clean + Jerk nearly 200kg at 95kg then you will have a pretty decent level of mass to move and support that much weight :-)[/quote]
Im pretty sure Jon was a bodybuilder before he got into OL.[/quote]
yeah he did say that he did bodybuild and had a decent level of strength training experience before taking up weightlifting, I did speak with him about his level of development, he also swims every day and attributes some of his muscle to that, but I suppose my point was that he maintained an impressive amount of musculature without really doing much specific work for it.
In a way, I have seen this myself. Dont get me wrong, I lift pathetic weights at the moment, but maintained most of what I had before.