Official PWI Voting Poll

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck. I’d probably rather vote for Wesley Snipes.

We know you and in fact all of us here, when we finally go into the voting booth, are going to pull the lever for McCain. Everyone knows Obama is a criminal, a nut, a Socialist, and an extreme Black Liberationist.

Giving him a 60 Dem Senate and a House in similar straites is like giving him a loaded gun, to assasinate America. Hell, Biden himself as much as said so.

Despite all the ways we want to vote, we’ll all put our country first and vote McCain.

[/quote]

not me.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
dk44 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Hey, who the shit took my vote off?

Acorn.

LOL! One word, lots of chuckles! Thanks, bro!!!

[/quote]

dk always cracks me up. The dude is damn funny.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck. I’d probably rather vote for Wesley Snipes.

We know you and in fact all of us here, when we finally go into the voting booth, are going to pull the lever for McCain. Everyone knows Obama is a criminal, a nut, a Socialist, and an extreme Black Liberationist.

Giving him a 60 Dem Senate and a House in similar straites is like giving him a loaded gun, to assasinate America. Hell, Biden himself as much as said so.

Despite all the ways we want to vote, we’ll all put our country first and vote McCain.

not me.[/quote]

dhickey, I respect your position and in large part agree - but is the principled stand of voting for a third party candidate really worth risking 4-8 years of Obama?

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck. I’d probably rather vote for Wesley Snipes.

We know you and in fact all of us here, when we finally go into the voting booth, are going to pull the lever for McCain. Everyone knows Obama is a criminal, a nut, a Socialist, and an extreme Black Liberationist.

Giving him a 60 Dem Senate and a House in similar straites is like giving him a loaded gun, to assasinate America. Hell, Biden himself as much as said so.

Despite all the ways we want to vote, we’ll all put our country first and vote McCain.

not me.

dhickey, I respect your position and in large part agree - but is the principled stand of voting for a third party candidate really worth risking 4-8 years of Obama?
[/quote]

If it moves the republican party in a conservative direction it might be.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck. I’d probably rather vote for Wesley Snipes.

We know you and in fact all of us here, when we finally go into the voting booth, are going to pull the lever for McCain. Everyone knows Obama is a criminal, a nut, a Socialist, and an extreme Black Liberationist.

Giving him a 60 Dem Senate and a House in similar straites is like giving him a loaded gun, to assasinate America. Hell, Biden himself as much as said so.

Despite all the ways we want to vote, we’ll all put our country first and vote McCain.

not me.

dhickey, I respect your position and in large part agree - but is the principled stand of voting for a third party candidate really worth risking 4-8 years of Obama?

If it moves the republican party in a conservative direction it might be.[/quote]

Yes, but isn’t a McCain administration likely to do the same? Under Obama, whole generations of children will grow up thinking that the purpose of government is to take care of you. That - and court appointments; and amnesty for illegal aliens (i.e., new dem voters) - will have lasting consequences that will prove difficult to reverse.

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck. I’d probably rather vote for Wesley Snipes.

We know you and in fact all of us here, when we finally go into the voting booth, are going to pull the lever for McCain. Everyone knows Obama is a criminal, a nut, a Socialist, and an extreme Black Liberationist.

Giving him a 60 Dem Senate and a House in similar straites is like giving him a loaded gun, to assasinate America. Hell, Biden himself as much as said so.

Despite all the ways we want to vote, we’ll all put our country first and vote McCain.

not me.

dhickey, I respect your position and in large part agree - but is the principled stand of voting for a third party candidate really worth risking 4-8 years of Obama?
[/quote]

I have said this before but will repeat. Just my opinion.

Most of America really doesn’t take much interest in politics. Particularly, the bastardization of the constitution and economic practices that have absolutly no basis in sound economic principal. This is unlikely to change until thing get much worse. I think the sooner it get much worse, the sooner the correction.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is much like the fed playing with the money supply. It may lessen the short term impact of a recession but will not eliminate it. In the end we get a longer drawn out recession where there is greater sacrifice, just spread over time.

The republicans may be slightly better in slowing the growth of gov’t but they are not going to reverse any damage that has been done. They mearly offer a more drawn out collapse.

Part of me wants to vote for Obama (and Franken) just to see us destroy what we can in 8 years rather than 20 or 30 years of gradual decline. 4 or 8 years of Obama and liberal super majority will probably create a big enough catastrophy to ensure a couple decades of republican rule.

The hope is that the republicans no longer have to cater to the left or uneducated (politically speaking) by then, and return to being conservatives.

The hope is that enough people take notice of what is happening and take an interest in politics. If people just took a passing interest in basic economics, no modern democrat (or many republicans) would ever get elected. If people just took a passing interest in understanding the principles this country was founded on, no modern democrat (or many republicans) would get elected.

This is what I want to have happen. This will not happen as long as we continue to limp along as we are. Something very bad need to happen and all Americans need to feel the effects.

Also, state and federal gov’t that is bankrupt is much more likely to start cutting programs and spending in my
opinion.

[quote]JamFly wrote:
Otep wrote:
McCain 4
Obama 4
Baldwin 1
Barr 2
Nader 1
Paul 3
McKinney 0
I like boobies 1
Pat 1
Wesley Snipes 1
None of the above 2
Harrison Ford 1 “Get off my plane!”

McCain 4
Obama 4
Baldwin 1
Barr 2
Nader 1
Paul 3
McKinney 0
I like boobies 2
Pat 1
Wesley Snipes 1
None of the above 2
Harrison Ford 1 “Get off my plane!”
Kermit the frog 1 (at least it’s visibly obvious he is a muppet)

ps: I also sneaked an additional vote into the boobies column.[/quote]

Hmmm, not gettin’ many votes. Perhaps I should campaign a little. Here it goes:

  • End the tax system as we know it and go to either a flat tax or a fair tax system.
    -I will put time limits on all pieces of legislation so that we are not ruled by non-applicable laws.
  • I will eliminate all laws that protect children by taking away rights from adults.
  • I will end the nanny state and let you live as you fucking please.
  • I will advocate the destruction of 75% of the cardio machines out there and use tax money to subsidize cast iron so we can afford more weights.
  • I will end affirmative action.
  • I will end social security.
  • I will end drug prohibition.
  • I will lower the drinking age to 18 and raise the driving age to 18.
  • I will drill every where there is oil with in our borders.
  • I will allow foreign drug and medical care competition.

There’s some…vote for me!!!

Well, dhickey, maybe you’re right. Since I’m from MA, it doesn’t matter anyway; so I’ll vote third party. Still thinking over who.

[quote]pat wrote:

Hmmm, not gettin’ many votes. Perhaps I should campaign a little. Here it goes:

  • End the tax system as we know it and go to either a flat tax or a fair tax system.
    -I will put time limits on all pieces of legislation so that we are not ruled by non-applicable laws.
  • I will eliminate all laws that protect children by taking away rights from adults.
  • I will end the nanny state and let you live as you fucking please.
  • I will advocate the destruction of 75% of the cardio machines out there and use tax money to subsidize cast iron so we can afford more weights.
  • I will end affirmative action.
  • I will end social security.
  • I will end drug prohibition.
  • I will lower the drinking age to 18 and raise the driving age to 18.
    [/quote] you had me until this one. Kids just learning to drive at the same time they are legally able to drink. I think i’ll go buy and F350 with a snow plow. Maybe add a external roll cage. How about they can drink, but just not in bars I frequent and they have to drive a prius or similarly sized car covered in 2 feet of foam.

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck. I’d probably rather vote for Wesley Snipes.

We know you and in fact all of us here, when we finally go into the voting booth, are going to pull the lever for McCain. Everyone knows Obama is a criminal, a nut, a Socialist, and an extreme Black Liberationist.

Giving him a 60 Dem Senate and a House in similar straites is like giving him a loaded gun, to assasinate America. Hell, Biden himself as much as said so.

Despite all the ways we want to vote, we’ll all put our country first and vote McCain.

not me.

dhickey, I respect your position and in large part agree - but is the principled stand of voting for a third party candidate really worth risking 4-8 years of Obama?
[/quote]

Is voting McCain worth 20+ years of John McCains as our only option?

mike

[quote]dhickey wrote:
pat wrote:

Hmmm, not gettin’ many votes. Perhaps I should campaign a little. Here it goes:

  • End the tax system as we know it and go to either a flat tax or a fair tax system.
    -I will put time limits on all pieces of legislation so that we are not ruled by non-applicable laws.

  • I will eliminate all laws that protect children by taking away rights from adults.

  • I will end the nanny state and let you live as you fucking please.

  • I will advocate the destruction of 75% of the cardio machines out there and use tax money to subsidize cast iron so we can afford more weights.

  • I will end affirmative action.

  • I will end social security.

  • I will end drug prohibition.

  • I will lower the drinking age to 18 and raise the driving age to 18.
    you had me until this one. Kids just learning to drive at the same time they are legally able to drink. I think i’ll go buy and F350 with a snow plow. Maybe add a external roll cage. How about they can drink, but just not in bars I frequent and they have to drive a prius or similarly sized car covered in 2 feet of foam.

  • I will drill every where there is oil with in our borders.

  • I will allow foreign drug and medical care competition.

There’s some…vote for me!!!

[/quote]

Hey, at 18 you can vote, buy a gun, go to pound-me-in-the-ass-prison and you can die for your country…So either you are an adult or you are not…If you are an adult you should be treated like one, if you are not then the age for all these things should be raised simultaneously.

[quote]pat wrote:
Hey, at 18 you can vote, buy a gun, go to pound-me-in-the-ass-prison and you can die for your country…So either you are an adult or you are not…If you are an adult you should be treated like one, if you are not then the age for all these things should be raised simultaneously.[/quote]

How about we just rid ourselves of the concept of “adulthood”?

One can either take care of himself or he can’t. I know many legal adults that are not “adults” – if you understand my meaning.

For various reasons there are 15 year-olds taking care of their entire family and there are 40 year-olds living in mom’s basement on the dole.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
pat wrote:
Hey, at 18 you can vote, buy a gun, go to pound-me-in-the-ass-prison and you can die for your country…So either you are an adult or you are not…If you are an adult you should be treated like one, if you are not then the age for all these things should be raised simultaneously.

How about we just rid ourselves of the concept of “adulthood”?

One can either take care of himself or he can’t. I know many legal adults that are not “adults” – if you understand my meaning.

For various reasons there are 15 year-olds taking care of their entire family and there are 40 year-olds living in mom’s basement on the dole.[/quote]

Mental age is not easily descernable, so we have jails for the exceedingly stupid.

[quote]pat wrote:
Mental age is not easily descernable, so we have jails for the exceedingly stupid.[/quote]

Yeah but age doesn’t really mean anything in biological terms. Leave the nest when you are ready and then you are on your own, mentally ready or not.

[quote]pat wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
pat wrote:
Hey, at 18 you can vote, buy a gun, go to pound-me-in-the-ass-prison and you can die for your country…So either you are an adult or you are not…If you are an adult you should be treated like one, if you are not then the age for all these things should be raised simultaneously.

How about we just rid ourselves of the concept of “adulthood”?

One can either take care of himself or he can’t. I know many legal adults that are not “adults” – if you understand my meaning.

For various reasons there are 15 year-olds taking care of their entire family and there are 40 year-olds living in mom’s basement on the dole.

Mental age is not easily descernable, so we have jails for the exceedingly stupid.[/quote]

Maturity and intelligence are separate issues.

[quote]pat wrote:

  • I will end the nanny state and let you live as you fucking please.
    [/quote]

-Unless, of course, living as you fucking please includes having an abortion.

[quote]pat wrote:

  • I will eliminate all laws that protect children by taking away rights from adults.
    [/quote]

Wait… what? I thought you wanted to enact laws that would protect unborn children by taking away an adult woman’s right to end her pregnancy.

Your platform has a few serious inconsistencies, but otherwise seems all right.

Repeal all federal firearms laws that violate the Second Amendment and you have my vote.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
pat wrote:

  • I will eliminate all laws that protect children by taking away rights from adults.

Wait… what? I thought you wanted to enact laws that would protect unborn children by taking away an adult woman’s right to end her pregnancy.

Your platform has a few serious inconsistencies, but otherwise seems all right.

Repeal all federal firearms laws that violate the Second Amendment and you have my vote.[/quote]

Oh, abortion is history, I figured that would be a given. Murder is still a crime under my rule.

Yes, all firearm laws in violation of the 2nd amendment are history. You’d be able to carry them on planes in my world.

And the stewardesses on those planes (whom I imagine all wearing micro-miniskirts and .45 pistols on their slim, shapely hips) come around before the flight handing out complimentary spliffs, peanuts with dried psilocybin mushrooms, and hashish brownies.

I think that would be worth putting up with an extra two million babies a year.

Okay, you’ve convinced me. Chalk up one more vote for Pat.

I wish this would be discussed in more seriousness. It makes so much sense it isnt even funny.
why should age determine your rights when age is not a factor in actual maturity.